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Allow me to set the stage for you.
I have been with this employer for over 7 years. I have been making X amount of money for the last 3-4 due to a pay freeze, as a result of our economy. This pay freeze has recently been lifted. I'm in line to get some breadcrumbs thrown my way in the summer. Here lies my problem; I make the same money in this position as I did in my previous one. In no way, shape or form, does my previous position even compare as it relates to work load and responsibility. I report to the CEO, Senior Management and other managers on pretty regular basis for vaious things. I'd like to think that I am pretty valuable in this position. (I realize that people rarely get paid what they are worth) It is an outrage that I am paid the same annual wage in this job as I was before. I have spoken with my current boss, my boss has spoken with HR, because my boss agrees that the job description is incorrect for my position and should be changed, most likely changing the pay scale to something that benefits me. Over the years the job has progressed into something more and the proper adjustments were never made to the job description and pay scale. Mainly because nobody ever said anything...well, I did. It's been, at the very least, two months since my initial discussions. I have asked (a month ago) the status of these potential changes and was told that nothing was guaranteed but things were "in process". What would you do from here? How would you approach the situation? I would be more specific but because this is a public forum I cannot for obvious reasons. I'll gladly accept PM's from people who have good professional advice.
Sorry for the long post!
UPDATE - 05/08/12: It's still quiet here regarding my discussions with HR and my boss. I have scaled the job boards for weeks, applied for several things, but no luck. If anyone has any job leads in the banking industry I would be very interested to hear from you. I'd be happy to detail my experience and qualifications via PM. Thanks so much for those that provided input on my situation when I first posted a few weeks ago. Look forward to hearing from anyone in Gamecock nation!
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maxcy124sc90 said...
I definitely suggest a pers. message from some folks because there are way too many variables involved for anyone to give you appropriate advice(size of company, profitability...if there's no money, there's no money, how long you've been there, how easily you can be replaced, how much money you make for the company, etc.etc.etc...). I worked for large corp. in a pseudo gov. environment for a few years after college...now I do something very different and I know that they are very different environments. As someone who employs people...I've never been much on employees asking for more money but I'm sure it is necessary from time to time. Good luck.
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Aaron Burr Cock said...
start working up a resume & be ready to depart if they dont come through with something more than "its in process".
if you do not prepare & have a path elsewhere, why should they give you any more money. you are working wearing many hats easing others lives, if you accept it they will keep giving it to you.
and i dont know your type of business, whether or not your company actually suffered during the economic dip or not....but lots of companies are making lots of money, and sitting on it.
if you are worth it they should pay you. if not, be ready to let them know you have some offers.
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Aaron Burr Cock said...
start working up a resume & be ready to depart if they dont come through with something more than "its in process".
if you do not prepare & have a path elsewhere, why should they give you any more money. you are working wearing many hats easing others lives, if you accept it they will keep giving it to you.
and i dont know your type of business, whether or not your company actually suffered during the economic dip or not....but lots of companies are making lots of money, and sitting on it.
if you are worth it they should pay you. if not, be ready to let them know you have some offers.
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usc709 said...
You've not given enough detail but if I am correct in assuming you're working in South Carolina for a non-union employer, you're pretty much at their mercy.
Your current position sounds like it has more reponsibility than did your former position but your PD isn't accurate. You've discussed this with your supervisor who agrees that your PD isn't accurate and needs to be updated. Your supervisor has, in all likelyhood, passed this info on to higher management who is not even remotely interested in doing anything that would cause them to have to increase your pay, therefore cutting into company profits. They've told you that things are "in process" but you're starting to wonder, after two months have transpired, if there really is anything going on.
What would I do from here? How would I approach the situation?
Impossible to say, not knowing any more than the info you provided. The trend over the last 30 or so years has been against the worker. Real wages have declined (adjusted for inflation). Benefits are quickly disappearing and are under attack every day. Reasonably good jobs are hard to find and many employers in states like South Carolina are quick to fire employees who start rocking the boat. Very few employees are so good that they can't be replaced in a heartbeat. Workers who have to support a family, make house and car payments, worry about health insurance, etc., don't have many options. Unless your situation is completely different than I'm assuming, about all you can reasonably do is keep asking your supervisor every few weeks if any progress is being made towards updating your PD and looking at upping your pay accordingly. Eventually he/she will get tired of your asking and might actually try to get something done, or not...
I know I've not offered a solution for you but I do caution you to be careful in how you approach this if you don't have other options lined up. The cards are stacked against the worker in today's anti-worker environment.
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Tempest said...
Not knowing what industry you're in, its hard to say. However, the larger the company, the slower the wheels spin. It might be that they are going to increase your salary, but that to do so, they have to jump through all sorts of hurdles along the way. If you feel like that's not what is happening, use contacts you have outside the company to begin finding other various opportunities. That allows you to be open and frank with your current employer without having to worry too much.
I (used) to work for a company where they promised me an interview for an assistant manager position. Some things were said that made me think otherwise, so I went around to people I knew and had 3 different jobs that wanted me should I need to make a switch. When it came out that they had been lying to me for at least 2 months, it was very easy for me to transition to another job.jaydeejazzyjeff
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