The Barnyard

you say that, and i appreciate your right to like dislike or whatever whomever, but the fact of the reality is....just about most black people do not see the man in that way

i think the rev is a hell of a lot saner now than he was when he was trying to get attention. when he ran for president he actually comported himself in a decent manner

he is not crazy, may have been a little crazy once

truth be told, if you dont go crazy at least one time in your freaking life, you are probably not much on the ball intellectually, unable to distinquish morbid pain from pleasure

it is not my job to defend or decry. i see some good and some bad. mostly like most. he is vocal right now. but, the guys mother died a few days ago. she insisted he go to sanford. and, he has not been calling for violence. he has not popped off, to my knowledge, in a rank demogogic way so far.

think i heard him say that the steps the state of florida and the justice dept and other things have been positive. he seems not to be pouring gas on the fire. i hope it stays that way

the whole issue with the kid shot, there are no winners coming out of this. no matter what, nothing good. i expect zimmerman to be exonerated. the laws as written and the kind of kick up enough dust and the fact an orlando jury let casey anthony off....hell, how could any jury convict zimmerman given the broad nature of stand your ground

everybody loses. zimmerman loses. the kids family loses. likely the black community loses even more trust of the cops, and in some cases i am sure they are justified

i love the bill of rights. dont question 2nd amendment. but, somehow, passing laws giving wideass lattitude to shoot to kill for any real or perceived threat. let 22 yr old nascent barnie fifes carry guns around on neighborhood watches....i get it nobody set out to be a damn villan but somehow something pretty gosh awful happened that screwed up so many lives.

we seem as a nation too inclined to get up in somebody's grill if challenged even a bit, we are more and more armed, and laws seem to make it possible to blow somebody away for perhaps quite dubious reasons, still skate....if you can survive the aftermath

it is a suckass situation

you are entitled. but personally i reflect on the loss of old trooperdel

i think we are well too inclined to demonize people we dont see eye to eye with

life sucks like that. rev al aint the source of the real problems of life. if he was gone i guess some would rejoice. shame on you if you do. give respect get respect. if al was gone, the shooting situation would still be there. angst in suburbs over crime wont go away. guns wont get less prevelant

i dont think this zimmerman guy was someone anxious to go out and shoot unarmed teens. i do think he probably harbored some racial bias. i dont think everybody on the other political divide is a racist.

encouraging an independent look at this case is certainly a legit idea. the fla state govt is gop. i dont think they would be just acting knee jerk to please sharpton

but, as i said, in the long run there is likely to be no case

there might well be a civil suit against this gated community....with what i understand was the "captain" of the watch unit...he had callled the cops repeatedly..he ignored the polices telling him to let them take care of it....the liability for letting a hot head hump around with a handgun with that kind of "background" seems to open a number of folks up to big suits

the insurer for the assoc will probably immediately cede a million, then depending on what umbrella policy they have, there may be five to ten more in there.....for starters

in short....everybody loses....everybody pays cause your insurance is assessed to pay for such crap.

if anybody has a ho assoc. you might want to make sure real life professionals are patroling and toting. if not your ass might be on the line legally as well.

enough insurance talk...imagine on rev al reference

ABC... ask him what time it is and he'll tell you how to build a watch. How many keyboards do you go through in a year?
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Sharpton, Jackson, NAACP don't exist if they don't create controversy. If Jesse doesn't stir the race pot, nobody donates to his foundation. If nobody donates to his foundation, he has to give up the limos and the jets and the helicopters. There is only racism if he says there is racism.
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The media also paints the picture that they want you to see... proof here.....
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edit: you have to click the picture to see the bottom half or my comment won't make sense.

To be really fair the left needs to recognize and admit the main stream media is equally misleading and any example of bias in reporting is equally egregious

the main stream media is far less biased than it used to be john

there was a reason nobody on the right was in the media, they chose to pursue money making goals instead of grinding out work as a newspaper flunkie...working up to not a lot of money

liberals pursued liberal educations and wrote. there are many more on the right on the media now. they are everywhere and everybody bends over backwards not to offend anybody including the nazis or kkk

quit yer whining about liberal media. it dont exist that much anymore. with the net you got as many voices as the left. more chip on the shoulder feeling sorry for self

Damn.. you got me. I thought I was gonna get to wallow in hate without reading your latest novel on the subject.
Go back and look sweetie. I am accurate on all points again... and thanks for the unsolicited history lesson. Yet another example of my original quote about "telling me how to make a watch."
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I'm really not interested in this becoming a debate about the NAACP because quite frankly, I don't care enough about the organization to do like you did and Wiki some information to bring back to the board. I do know that nothing I said was hateful. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Josea Williams, and Louis Ferrakhan only exist in the middle of controversy, and mostly racial controversy. Remember Jesse's quote... "it's racial if I say it's racial."

i get that sharpton, jackson, and the others cited have offended many of you

and that many of you have written them off, that no matter what they say its bad..

and I'm not saying that the haven't said things that are offensive

but have a little respect for context please

when these guys were growing they weren't allowed to eat with white people, they had their own water fountains, crappy schools, lynchings, etc

jackson was with mlk when he was shot dead for peacefully fighting for racial equality

so yeah, these guys may be too harsh for the times now, but their experience in life is VERY different that yours

easy for you to say that times have changed. you didn't grow up under a brunt of an apartheid system did you?

I feel badly for the loss of the young man - I am saddened by the death of any child. I guess you could call me naive but I have just not seen or read enough conclusive evidence to come to a decision as to the facts presented.

However, I can say with certainty in order to make up my mind I do not need the assistance or presence of jackson or sharpton adding their opinion, interpretation, impression, supposition, speculation or general take on a set of facts that are in dispute and not definitive nor proven. Their participation in the public discourse. although their right, bodrers on fomenting the public opinion and discourse of the case and is far from beneficial or useful.

In my opinion, their bellicose rhetoric, as does the false photograph, serves but one purpose - to obfuscate the truth.

short version- you dont know anything, you resent my knowing so much.

you dont want to wallow in hate? sorry, the stains & the slime oozing from your orificies indicate otherwise

got your gun little weiner boy? i know your type. more or less like zimmerman, a dolt with a small weiner looking to project bigger. you cant get any smaller punk

and i hope the sweetie reference doesnt mean you are a fag

Let me add one other point - again one on which we may disagree.

The actions and antics of sharpton, jackson, the black panther party placing a bounty on zimmerman, spike lee putting out the wrong zimmerman's address in a veiled attempt to rally the masses - in my opinon, crosses the line of reasonable and rational debate and discourse and ventures far into the realm of vigilantism – perhaps it almost approaches the line of lynching?