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not a separation of church and state?
Are you saying that it goes against separation of church and state?
This post was edited by Johnny H 19 months ago
I had a similar question yesterday regarding a bowed head moment of silence for a recently passed court bailiff as part of the jury instructions in a State Court proceeding - not that I have anything against it. However I don't think a similar moment is allowable at high school commencement ceremonies or football games.
The baptism of a player in uniform with all his teammates in attendance on a state owned university campus is probably acceptable when done with good and honorable intentions.
This is similar to the Santa Fe ISD v. Doe case from 2000, with the distinguishing facts being that the baptism occurred during a closed practice instead of a public football game and Clemson presumably does not have a policy in place that either requires or encourages its players to be baptized.
Little hand says it's time to rock and roll.
Just curious - did that case include tweeting, twating or twiddle dee deeing pics to media?
As for them having a policy in place requiring school sanctioned mandatory baptisms - probably not ... couldn't swear to it they don't have a strong unwritten verbal baptismal encouragement clause for team members.
I wouldn't be so sure about that presumption.
Also, for argument's sake, I'm not so sure that practice vs. game distinction is a distinguishing factor. I haven't read the case but I seem to remember that Establishment Clause cases typically don't hinge the ability to "elect-out" or other remedial measures. It is my impression that if the gov't or a gov't employee is sponsoring or promoting the activity, you've got a problem. At first, I thought the fact that a third party was actually performing the baptism was okay, but I also believe there are cases violating the Establishment Clause when the religious activity was out-sourced to a non-gov't practitioner.
I think the important facts in this instance are to know what Dabo's involvement was, what were the circumstances surrounding all the viewers being present, and who asked the baptiser to come and perform the service.
You may run like Hayes, but you hit like $*!#
The case is from 2000, meaning the activity likely took place in the early 1990s. I don't even remember if the internet was around then.
Is THAT what they were doing? Baptizing? I thought they was abouts to eat him.
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