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As I said before the Flag was put up as an "in your face" and not necessarily for any valid historical reason
The problem is being South Carolinians we do not respond well to threats or demands.
I think it could be be taken down but there has to be some concession by the NAACP.
Taking it down is probably the right move but not because we are denied a Women's tournament game. I do not think a couple of thousand fans are going to have a tremendous impact on the State's economy
Hope the NAANative Americans never get offended by the stars and stripes. That might be next.
George Strait-Entertainer of a Lifetime
You are absolutely correct.
It's way more than just McConnell. It's not happening in my lifetime. Especially some of those wack jobs from the upstate.
The flag means different things to different people. However, it has no legal reason to fly anywhere on the grounds of our Statehouse, and has been, and continues to be hurtful to all South Carolinians (whether they realize it or not).
Get out of the state much?
To some and possibly the majority it's a symbol of racism. It also hurts the state from hosting some major events like an NCAA regional or a bowl game.
He wrote against not for
TAKE THE DAMN THING DOWN!
Kelsey leave b/c of the flag? Honest question. I'm a full scholly but dong follow women's hoops. From a foreign pov, if dawn's butt is hurt, it would have more to do w/ losing to her prize recruit twice this year. Now, if bone left b/c of some flag related issue (which is a crutch IMO) , then I'd be more inclined to listen to this argument.
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Interested to see how football playoff sites may be organized. If they are pre-determined and we are allowed a home game and the NCAA says nope and we have to travel somewhere. Wonder what the reaction would be.
David Beasley did, and look what we did to him. He is back in Society Hill. The same will happen to anyone else that is stupid enough to mess with our heritage and history,
lol. If Kelsey left because of the flag, that's her problem. She's an idiot for coming here if she left because of it. Same for Dawn
Do you fly a Confedate Flag in front of your house? Just curious.
Which period is that?
The one in the mid 1800's where the flag was prolific when we bought and sold human beings as property.
Or the period in the mid 1900's where that flag was prolific when we turned loose dogs and Water hoses to prevent them from drinking from water fountains or joining our kids in school.
Your move, chief.
A South Carolina flag daily and a Confederate Flag on May 10. I do have a copy of The Constitution of the United States displayed prominately in my home. I am definitely a 1st 2nd and 4th Amendment person and a disciple of John Locke's Second Treatise on Government.Also a strong believer in St. Thomas Aquinis principle of Natural Law.
I can't discuss this until you make up your mind. So was the mid 1800s or the mid 1900s the most horrible period in our country's history, IYO?
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Amnesty International says there is more slavery in the world today than at any point in history.
Few people understand that the percentage of Southerners that owned slaves in the 1800's was very low. I have read that the comparison is about the same as people who own airplanes today. Slavery in any form is indefensible. The sad fact is that it was born of human greed and that won't go away. We have many people today that are so money driven that they are capable of anything.
Most of us are compassionate people that try to do the right thing, but we all know that there are people everywhere that will resort to anything for wealth. It is wrong to single out people from the 19th century and place the blame on them. As far as The War Between the States and slavery being the sole issue, may I recommend a book to you- The Real Lincoln by Professor Thomas DeLorenzo. Everything you read in that book is documented in The National Archives,
Just like weapons of mass destruction was given as the reason for the war in Iraq, slavery was given as the reason for The War Between the States. And, nobody has come up for a reason for The War in Viet Nam.If you want a reason for all three, follow the money.
Believe the American flag also flew during that time, too.
Mistakes have occurred under both flags (terrible in the case of slavery and the treatment of African Americans before the Civil Rights Movement), but some people are proud of their heritage, good and bad.
If the majority of South Carolinians want the flag in a museum, then put it there, if they want to honor their culture and heritage by keeping the flag on the grounds, then leave it there. I would be curious as to what the voters would say on the issue. I'm sure most folks have an opinion, but I'm thinking only a few now days have a strong opinion one way or the other. They are more concerned with other issues of more importance.
Either way is fine with me. Just let the people decide. A small portion of people want it in a museum, a small percentage strongly want it up. I want to know what the majority of people in S.C. want. A few folks on one side or the other will be a bit upset, or offended. I'm sure they will survive.
I actually agree. Vote on it. Let the people decide. Not politicians.
What would it take for a referendum for voters to vote on in an election to have the flag removed from the grounds? Is it possible?
"Those who live in the past are cowards and losers" -- Mike Ditka
My opinion is that a referendum will never happen because of the civil unrest that it would create.
My opinion on the issue with the NCAA is that intercollegate athletics have absolutely nothing with the politics and government of any state.Just like the NCAA made Newberry College change its mascot from Indians to Wolves because it was demeaning to Native Americans.
I was a Liberterian before it became popular to be one. There are a hell of a lot of people I don't like, but not one of them has anything to do with race or religion.
If you read this document, it makes it pretty clear why SC seceded.
"Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union"
Interference with slavery, the north's refusal to return runways, and attempts to prohibit slavery in the territories.
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