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CockAtLaw said...
I don't watch or listen to any of those people you mentioned, and in the one thread I was involved in regarding Spike Lee and the NBP, I was very clear that any statement or activity that incites violence is uncalled for and should not be tolerated. You and JohnHunt and others on this board probably disagree with every single thing I believe, but I do not think you will find one instance where I have encourage violent or overboard, non-reasonable political rhetoric.
I don't even know who Thom Hartmann is so I don't really know what to say about that.
The problem is not that the media is telling people who can and can't speak their mind. The people who hear the statements make that decision. Nobody is censoring these people at all; in fact, by the media giving them constant coverage and discussion, it is the exact opposite. People make choices as to what they listen to and what they don't, not the media (ignoring the obvious point that companies could always elect not to broadcast certain people, but they would do that for economic reasons, not because of some forced censorship).
What I am saying is that the people who take the stage and inject themselves in the discussion and debate should feel some sense of responsibility to keep discussions civil and reasonable. People disagree, that is a good thing; people who name-call other people fascists, communists, socialists, nazis, varmints, etc are not helping the country at all. With great power comes great responsibility, at least that's what I've always heard.
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johnhunt said...
I know you are speaking in hyperbole to make a point There are many in the ‘Yard who probably disagree with you on everything you post. I have posted things you disagree with or find objectionable as well.
Although I am honored to be listed among those you believe consistently disagree with you, I feel you are using far too broad a brush to paint me as always the antagonist.
For example, a week ago you posted the following statement:
…Anyone, including Lee and the Black Panther leaders, who publicly advocated for vigilante style justice, whether directly or indirectly, should be charged with the maximum criminal crime available. I don't know what that is under FL law, but those sorts of actions should not be tolerated in a society based on law and order. ….
I know you don't read every comment on the board but I have written numerous posts regarding the antics of the black panthers, their leadership and their methods. I have historically been opposed to any actions taken in the name of vigilantism.
Following your posting I responded with a supporting and concurring thought: Of course vigilantism is not the solution nor should it be an option.
Several posts later someone suggests I am a coward for my stance. Anecdotally, I understand he too is an attorney.
It was not particularly bothersome as this is just a message board - highly charge and opinionated at times and often comments, even negative ones, are provided sloely for the viewing enjoyment of the audiance.
Unlike some I have the courage to defend those with whom I disagree as well as the integrity to admit when my position is wrong.
I find the majority of your posts to be finely crafted and highly thought provoking - whether we disagree or not.
This post was edited by CockAtLaw on 4/19/2012 at 12:18 PM
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CockAtLaw said...
I was not calling you out specifically in some derogatory manner, I just wanted maxcy to see he was not alone. Plus, it is easy to remember where you post because of your avatar.
Edit: Also, I don't think you and I are always on opposite sides of the spectrum, just on the issues that are actually in mainstream controversy. For example, I think we can both agree that Baby Spice was the best of the Spice Girls at that time.
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Bom274 said...
Who is telling Americans what they can and cannot say???
This country has one of, if not the strongest free speech protections [and free speech traditions] in the world.
Just because paranoid radio personality hate mongers say, don't make it so ..............
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Bom274 said...
Who is telling Americans what they can and cannot say???
This country has one of, if not the strongest free speech protections [and free speech traditions] in the world.
Just because paranoid radio personality hate mongers say, don't make it so ..............
This post was edited by joetheogre on 4/19/2012 at 2:45 PM
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Bom274 said...
Who is telling Americans what they can and cannot say???
This country has one of, if not the strongest free speech protections [and free speech traditions] in the world.
Just because paranoid radio personality hate mongers say, don't make it so ..............
This post was edited by maxcy124sc90 on 4/19/2012 at 3:31 PM
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maxcy124sc90 said...
Well, since you believe that, by all means please spell out the most nonpolitically correct term that you can think of and spell it out for us and we will all see how acceptable it is. I know for certain that I was referred to as both a "honkey" and a "redneck" very recently but these terms seem to be politically correct. Please use capital letters.
Bom, I know you have enough sense not to do that but I hope you get the point. There's plenty you can't say...it may be legal to voice your opinion but you will spend a lot of time in the "soup line" if you do.
Perhaps you should google Bill Cosby or perhaps John Rocker for some examples of things you can't say.
(don't take this stuff personally because I don't mean for it to be) The point is that there a million double standards with reference to what you can and can't say...we all know this...and if you really don't then there is no way I can convince you.
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johnhunt said...
We are all free to say anything we want...Truth, Justice and the American Way. However with the freedom comes obligation.
We all have an obligation to face the consequences for our free exercise of choice.
Yell FIRE in a crowded theater - consequence possibel arrest Yell the N word in certain places - consequence possible ass whooping Yell the F bomb on national TV - consequence (if you're bob beckel) ???
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