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OT: George Zimmerman arrested, charged with 2nd degree murder

  • Regardless of your opinions on the subject, I think everyone should appreciate that our justice system is going to take an in depth look at this case. There are certainly a lot of unanswered questions.

    This post was edited by joetheogre on 4/11/2012 at 6:49 PM

    Trayvon Martin case: Zimmerman faces 2nd-degree murder charge

    Trayvon Martin case: George Zimmerman faces 2nd-degree murder charge

    www.latimes.com
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    joetheogre

  • It boggles my mind that he wasn't charged in the first place. All the kid was doing was walking home minding his own business. Whatever confrontation occurred happened because Zimmerman provoked it.

    Kelso Red

  • I deal with this crap everyday....I come here to deal with the sports played by my favorite college program....could we not bring this here? Just asking........

    By the way, the system works and would have worked here without all the total BS! Law Enforcement is damned it they do and damned if they don't. There was an ongoing investigation that had not reached it's end before the usual blow hards jumped in. But it still ain't sports related

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  • Kelso Red said...

    It boggles my mind that he wasn't charged in the first place. All the kid was doing was walking home minding his own business. Whatever confrontation occurred happened because Zimmerman provoked it.

    I agree. I support gun rights and the right to self defense, but when police tell you not to follow someone but you ignore them and provoke a confrontation, the claim to self defense really goes out the window.

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  • CockOracle said...

    I deal with this crap everyday....I come here to deal with the sports played by my favorite college program....could we not bring this here? Just asking........

    By the way, the system works and would have worked here without all the total BS! Law Enforcement is damned it they do and damned if they don't. There was an ongoing investigation that had not reached it's end before the usual blow hards jumped in. But it still ain't sports related

    It fits in about as much as another lame Bobby Petrino thread or another thread making fun of Clemson fans.

    This was a breaking story so I felt I would share it with the board. I assume that it will eventually get relegated to the Barnyard, but I thought that posters who don't normally head over there would appreciate the info. On top of that, I titled it as an off topic thread. If you are so fed up with this "crap" why feel the need to open, read, and comment in a thread that you know deals with the Zimmerman case?

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  • Kelso Red said...

    It boggles my mind that he wasn't charged in the first place. All the kid was doing was walking home minding his own business. Whatever confrontation occurred happened because Zimmerman provoked it.

    Ok I have to address this. First you don't know what actually happened. I am sure that Zimmerman wishes he had never stopped his truck but that is why crime is so out of control, people are afraid to get involved.

    On the arrest. I walk clients, black and white, out of police stations all the time after they had been taken in for questioning after the fact in possible major cases. Law Enforcement did not have or didn't feel they had enough to charge my client at the time, so by law they have to cut them loose. Once LE develops the case, I have also had to walk my client right back in to be arrested because LE developed evidence that led to the arrest. For the usual blow hards to claim it was race related that he wasn't arrest that night is just total BS. Oh and the one race of client that usually isn't allowed to walk out with me, regardless of the seriousness of the possible crime is any Hispanic. Check judicial.gov.sc and you will find that Hispanic's are arrested and held in far greater numbers than any other race. Mostly for traffic offenses that you or I would never be held on. Do an inmate search on any local dentention center, tyoe in any Hispanic name and look at the offenses then compare theirs to the other races in that same detention center.

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  • CockOracle said...

    Ok I have to address this. First you don't know what actually happened. I am sure that Zimmerman wishes he had never stopped his truck but that is why crime is so out of control, people are afraid to get involved.

    On the arrest. I walk clients, black and white, out of police stations all the time after they had been taken in for questioning after the fact in possible major cases. Law Enforcement did not have or didn't feel they had enough to charge my client at the time, so by law they have to cut them loose. Once LE develops the case, I have also had to walk my client right back in to be arrested because LE developed evidence that led to the arrest. For the usual blow hards to claim it was race related that he wasn't arrest that night is just total BS. Oh and the one race of client that usually isn't allowed to walk out with me, regardless of the seriousness of the possible crime is any Hispanic. Check judicial.gov.sc and you will find that Hispanic's are arrested and held in far greater numbers than any other race. Mostly for traffic offenses that you or I would never be held on. Do an inmate search on any local dentention center, tyoe in any Hispanic name and look at the offenses then compare theirs to the other races in that same detention center.

    In before this thread gets locked. It's sad what happened but it's disturbing the lengths mainstream media will go to for ratings.

    This post was edited by Pat_Bateman on 4/11/2012 at 7:22 PM

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  • I think the charge was proper - the court will sort it out. But someone explain to me why the loudmouths that put a bounty out on him were not arrested? Last I heard that was also illegal in this country.

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  • joetheogre said...

    It fits in about as much as another lame Bobby Petrino thread or another thread making fun of Clemson fans.

    This was a breaking story so I felt I would share it with the board. I assume that it will eventually get relegated to the Barnyard, but I thought that posters who don't normally head over there would appreciate the info. On top of that, I titled it as an off topic thread. If you are so fed up with this "crap" why feel the need to open, read, and comment in a thread that you know deals with the Zimmerman case?

    Sorry man, I missed your point. Your reasoning is good. I have been haviong a difficult week with a case and I do often come over here to read sports stuff to get my mind off the day to day bs the system deals out.

    You make a good point about Petrino. I am sick of his name. But just like this case, I took offense to posters that convicted him without all the evidence. He was judged prior to the facts of the investigation coming out. When they finally completed the investigation, ARK acted accordingly. He was proven to be a low life and he was fired. Which makes some posters on this site feel great and claim they were right all a long to judge him but if we don't allow for due process to occur then we are all guilty of giving away our rights given to us by the US Const. I pray that some are never in a position that they are judged as they judged Pentrino before all the facts are known.

    Again, sorry I offend you

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  • Mods, why are non sports related comments allowed. Ordinarily I would skip, but the headline spews out the opinion so that it can't be avoided. I pay my money to get away from this crap to sports.

    majorcock

  • Oracle, I agree that the courts have to allow for due process to occur. I, however, am allowed to make my decision on whether someone is guilty or not at any point.

    Tempest

  • Why don't you guys just skip the thread and quit bitching. You're not required to read every thread.

    Zenupe13

  • joetheogre said...

    Regardless of your opinions on the subject, I think everyone should appreciate that our justice system is going to take an in depth look at this case. There are certainly a lot of unanswered questions.

    Why didn't you put this in the Barnyard?

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  • joetheogre said...

    I agree. I support gun rights and the right to self defense, but when police tell you not to follow someone but you ignore them and provoke a confrontation, the claim to self defense really goes out the window.

    Zimmerman apparently got attacked by the guy as he was returning to his truck. Hopefully all the facts will come out in time. Meantime, we shouldn't be so quick to rush to judgment.

    Bittercreek

  • 1. The system does not work. See Casey Anthony and Oj Simpson. Three murdered and both walk free, while Martha Stewart spends time in prison.

    2. The prosecutors clearly don't feel too great about the case otherwise it would be a clear murder 1 if it happened they way the media says it did.

    This post was edited by uscrudd on 4/11/2012 at 8:59 PM

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  • Delicious Tacos said...

    People who blame the media are hilarious

    Spurrier has blamed the media before.

    uscrudd

  • Delicious Tacos said...

    People who blame the media are hilarious

    Are You really that desperate?

    This post was edited by Pat_Bateman on 4/11/2012 at 9:14 PM

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    Pat_Bateman

  • Delicious Tacos said...

    People who blame the media are hilarious

    Why did this case get media attention and when 49 African Americans get shot and 10 die over St Patricks day weekend in Chicago nothing happens? The media 100% is using this. Ratings and their agenda.

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  • Delicious Tacos said...

    People who blame the media are hilarious

    I don't know what happened that night.

    But

    The media shows his picture from third grade looking like an angel. But won't portray him as the the man that was suspended from school already three times in one year, once for drugs...and wears a gold grill.

    And before you crown me as prejudice or whatever bs you're thinking of.. Ask yourself who's most likely to jump your ass.. The third grade angel, or the drug user kicked out of school three times with gold teeth?

    This post was edited by uscrudd on 4/11/2012 at 9:27 PM

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  • Delicious Tacos said...

    People who blame the media are hilarious

    So u think nbc editing out parts of the 911 call was an honest mistake?

    I think trusting the media is just about as dumb as trusting the government or Bobby Petrino or Rick Petino.

    eddy

  • i am going to avoid any comment on the case, cause i dont know enough to add to anything more but the thing that just jumps at me is this zimmerman guy calling sean hannity. and hannity has some secret conversation with the guy.

    why would he call a tv talking head? and why would hannity talk to him? with charges filed, why not drag hannity into the courtroom and grill him?

    some of this is taking on twilight zone aspects. if there is a slow white bronco chase through disneyworld or epcot, i am just going to get upset.

    weird

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  • CockOracle said...

    Ok I have to address this. First you don't know what actually happened. I am sure that Zimmerman wishes he had never stopped his truck but that is why crime is so out of control, people are afraid to get involved.

    On the arrest. I walk clients, black and white, out of police stations all the time after they had been taken in for questioning after the fact in possible major cases. Law Enforcement did not have or didn't feel they had enough to charge my client at the time, so by law they have to cut them loose. Once LE develops the case, I have also had to walk my client right back in to be arrested because LE developed evidence that led to the arrest. For the usual blow hards to claim it was race related that he wasn't arrest that night is just total BS. Oh and the one race of client that usually isn't allowed to walk out with me, regardless of the seriousness of the possible crime is any Hispanic. Check judicial.gov.sc and you will find that Hispanic's are arrested and held in far greater numbers than any other race. Mostly for traffic offenses that you or I would never be held on. Do an inmate search on any local dentention center, tyoe in any Hispanic name and look at the offenses then compare theirs to the other races in that same detention center.

    Interesting point about the Hispanics. My guess is that LE in SC worries they are a flight risk since they do not have deep roots in this state and many are here illegally. In Florida, though, I doubt you see the same treatment towards them.

    Thomas Sumter

  • Delicious Tacos said...

    People who blame the media are hilarious

    People who don't consider the "why" and "how" something is reported are naive.

    Thomas Sumter

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