The Barnyard

You do realize being a hard core, left leaning, progressive does not preclude you from voting for whomever you choose come November.

In a moment of boredom coupled with a snifter of Courvoisier I wanted to relax and do a little light reading. I found this thread about the tea party taking over the Barnyard – it piqued my interest mostly because there is actually very little posted about the tea party during the past couple of months.

I was not so interested in the tea party discussion per se; I was more intrigued by the inflammatory nature of the poster's comment without reference to fact or context. Putting out partial facts and attributing those evil deeds to those pesky tea party governors.

I don’t know who the "Kock" brothers are but it’s on my bucket list to read up on them and their dirty work which in some clandestine and surreptitious manner they’ve managed to get these nefarious governors and by extention, the people to do for them.

Lastly I found humor in the implication that only independents are free thinkers, not beholding to any party’s agenda and implying he is, therefore, free to vote for whomever he wants.

Many might agree that she may not be the most popular governor nor the best liked - but worst ... ever...bar none? Where do you place Ben Tillman in your pecking order of the worst or perhaps Strom Thurmond - not the loveable old curmudgeon Senator but the Dixiecrat segregationist?

If it wasn’t enough that I have to research Fred Kock (which by the way I have found no reference of in my Joseph McCarthy’s handy dandy pocket guide on Un-American Activities.) I now need to get background on the John Birch Society ...will it never end....I'll get back to you, BT

"80 million cut from schools to finance tax breaks for the wealthy"...why don't you try some actual research and critical thinking and give us a break on the liberal bumper stickers

I’m sure you mean well but your comments appear to be very agenda driven. Also, there is strong twist of contradiction in your talking points.

Because of her position on education funding and corporate tax breaks you proclaim Haley the worst governor ever, placing her above the racist member of the red shirts BenTillman and the former avowed racist and leader of the segregationist Dixiecrat Party Strom Thurmond…you don’t see any convoluted logic in that pecking order?

You categorize the John Birch Society as a hate group of which you have many friends – no hypocrisy there.

I'll never take Jack3D again.

Do you think she hates children? Seriously, that is the liberal premise if you don't spend money we don't have on programs, etc...that aren't succeeding. So in order to be a good governor, etc...one must continue to increase funds for state run education...despite the fact that we've thrown billions at it with very little results...maybe we should think outside the box...
your statement..."anyone who cuts funding to schools like she does is no good in my books" is not very well thought out imo.
Not trying to be a smartarse...as the husband of a devout teacher who sees the inner workings of government run education I think we should perhaps try something different for a change

Maxcy, you know me better than that. I may be left leaning, but I am not someone who follow the Democratic party line. In Haley I see someone who cut funding to public schools and state universities at a time when we need to be putting more of a focus on education. She has really been a complete dud as a governor and her approval rating hovers around 35 in the last poll I saw, so I think I am in the majority.

I get that and its a legitimate political position. Education needs reform, but I'm not sure hers are the best. Of all the things to cut to get under budget, education should be the last one.

I agree we should only spend what we take in, but I dont agree with cutting important programs. I think and have thought for a long time that are easy ways to raise tax revenues that wouldn't afffect people, we just choose not to implement them. We should raise cigarette taxes to the national average and build casinos in myrtle beach and expand the lottery. I did a project on this a few years ago, but the money raised from these would be enormous. Social conservatives wouldn't go for it, but its either that, cut back on public programs, or raise income or salex taxes.

Kicked back in my barcalounger with a Jagerbomb while in a semi-comatose state drooling with anticipation of the final round of the Big Dance - I reread the entirety of this thread where you begin by proclaiming your allegiance to the independent party and your distain for extremes of either party.

Please don't take offence, but after re-acquainting myself with all of your comments in this thread you might be interested to know you did not reference a single moderate position. Furthermore, by implication, you in fact assumed the mantle of a liberal with your presumption that only independents are free to vote without persuasion of either party.

A conservative is inherently free to choose without fear of undue political party pressure.

Your extreme stance on taxpayer subsidization of the education system over and above what the system can bear and your overt dislike Haley coupled with your admiration of the segreagationists Thurmond and Tillman - one can only conclude you are not independently moderate but are in fact, at a minimum, a closet progressive and probably quite liberal in your political leanings.

An Independent is someone that has trouble making up his mind.