The Barnyard

at least they must champion it as a TAX now, not a mandate.

If only we were not censored. Alas...

the sky is falling chicken little run for cover

the fact that we can now be forced to purchase product from private companies, just bc we are breathing, via a tax, or suffer a financial penalty, is a scary, scary thought. BCBS, and other insurance companies, will profit from this tax - that's fantastic! A tax, imposed by our gov't, but paid to private companies and only collected by our gov't if you forgo coverage.

It's a direct step towards Obama's stated ultimate goal - single payer. European utopia in America. It's worked out great over there. If only we can replace the dollar with the euro, then we'd really be on the right track.

It is just a straightforward violation of our individual rights...it's amazing that people don't understand what that means and the implications of it. I have said it before and I will say it again...if the federal government can force individuals to purchase a product from a private company then we have actually surrendered all of our rights...which apparently 30% of the country is quite comfortable with.

On the bright side, Romney and the repub. majority will begin disassembling this monstrosity in about 6 months!

I love the thought process..... we all pay for people that don't pay anyway, so, let's create a solution to where we all pay for the people that don't pay and reward those that don't pay with better access to healthcare.

Couple of things to address here and I will stop talking about this:

1. 33 million- That is the number of people that now have access to healthcare.
2. This is based off of Romney's health care plan. If you don't like Obamacare, why on earth would you vote for Romney?
3. If you already pay for insurance, the law won't affect you. If anything, your premium will go down.
4. If everyone is so concerned about overtaxation and not getting anything back from it, how come I have never heard a 65+ year old republican/tea partier advocate abolishing Social Security? I guess they don't mind young people paying into a system that they - in all likelihood - will never be able to draw from. But somehow it is Ok for them to keep collecting from it.
5. People under 26 will now have an easier time finding a job because Obamacare allows them to stay under a parent's plan; thus they are cheaper to hire. Young people will vote for Obama because he gives a shit about them, as this law clearly indicates.

It's a dangerous precedent perhaps, but I don't think it merits striking down a law that, in my opinion, will drastically benefit millions of people without radically harming anyone else.

One could argue Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and all of the New Deal programs were unconstitutional and a vast overreach of government power at the time, but today seem very ordinary.

If a law is agreed upon by all three branches of the government, I don't really see how people can be that mad about it. We elected all of these people or they were appointed by people we elected.

1 - I didn't know 33 million people couldn't enter emergency room or hospital doors..... wow. When did I miss the bouncers checking IDs?
2 - Well, I don't think Romney lied to Mass citizens about his plan, if California wants to have a healthcare tax, then allow them, if FLA doesn't want one, they shouldn't be forced to. And, lastly, it's pretty simple - would I rather vote for a guy that lies to the American people about his policies, or give someone else a chance? I'll try someone else.
3 - Like I said, I like the idea - let's reward those people that we're paying for anyway, by paying for them anyway and giving them better coverage.
4 - BC those folks had their money taken with the promise that it would be there. I'd want my money back too, but at this point realize it won't be.
5 - What? You think employers are going to go on a hiring frenzy bc those under 26 are covered by their parents? Not likely.

How does this law show Obama cares about them? He lied to them, but, if that's caring..... Employees ARE NOT hiring bc of Obama. Thus the youth has a DRASTIC unemployment rate, but again, if that's caring.....He's asked them to ask wedding guest to donate money to him as opposed to enjoying their wedding gifts.

1- They are allowed to, but you do realize ER visits end up costing the government/taxpayers? Now they are allowed to get preventative treatment, which will lower costs
2- Romney has lied literally dozens of times in his political career
3- You said it yourself, we were paying for them anyway. Only difference is now we are paying less (preventative care) and they are getting better treatment. Win/Win
4- I am still promised my money will be there. Sucks for me that SS will likely run out by 2040-2050.
5- All things being equal, I would hire a 24 year old who doesn't need his own insurance instead of a guy who is 28. I've heard several pundits point this out as an unintended consequence of the law.

Obama cares much more than Romney does, and its not even close. Not even gonna debate that one with you. The only people Romney gives a shit about are business leaders, the finance industry, and big business. Obama has actually introduced legislation that benefits young people, teachers, minorities, gays, etc.

So you are opposed to the state level mandate as well, right? Because the government can't force people to do something they don't want to do?

With that said, I'm done talking about this. Obviously a lot of you aren't going to agree with me, but I think in November more people will than not. I am damn proud of my country today.