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johnhunt said...
You can read the story and interpret it as liberally and with as much counter english and backspin as you see fit:
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/american-student-punished-for-refusing-to-recite-mexican-pledge.html
The issue is twofold - the student was punished for refusing to recite the Mexican pledge and that there is an opt out for students to not have to recite the American pledge.
Interpretation aside, do you believe teachers really think they're doing a valuable educational service for their students or is, this like so many other examples, just another soap box opportunity.
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johnhunt said...
You can read the story and interpret it as liberally and with as much counter english and backspin as you see fit:
http://radio.foxnews.com/toddstarnes/top-stories/american-student-punished-for-refusing-to-recite-mexican-pledge.html
The issue is twofold - the student was punished for refusing to recite the Mexican pledge and that there is an opt out for students to not have to recite the American pledge.
Interpretation aside, do you believe teachers really think they're doing a valuable educational service for their students or is, this like so many other examples, just another soap box opportunity.
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CockAtLaw said...
I am bothered by the stupid decisions of individual teachers regarding students reciting pledges or praying or whatever else.
I am much more bothered by the concerted effort made by some local and national politicians to discredit science in the public sphere, including our public school systems, which will only be a disservice to our young citizens who ultimately will be playing catch up in a global economy built on math and science education. From demonizing the theory of evolution (without even trying to replace it with an alternative which has been tested and analyzed in accordance with the scientific method) to trying to win the public relations campaign surrounding climate change when essentially every legitimate peer-reviewed scientific journal examining and testing anthropogenic climate change comes out the same way, this concerted and coordinated attack on the scientific method and its benefits/results is problematic if we are hoping to build a society capable of critical analysis and thought.
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CockAtLaw said...
I am bothered by the stupid decisions of individual teachers regarding students reciting pledges or praying or whatever else.
I am much more bothered by the concerted effort made by some local and national politicians to discredit science in the public sphere, including our public school systems, which will only be a disservice to our young citizens who ultimately will be playing catch up in a global economy built on math and science education. From demonizing the theory of evolution (without even trying to replace it with an alternative which has been tested and analyzed in accordance with the scientific method) to trying to win the public relations campaign surrounding climate change when essentially every legitimate peer-reviewed scientific journal examining and testing anthropogenic climate change comes out the same way, this concerted and coordinated attack on the scientific method and its benefits/results is problematic if we are hoping to build a society capable of critical analysis and thought.
"Madness is rare in individuals - but in groups, parties, nations, and ages it is the rule." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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81 Alumnus said...
I don't know which was more fun: What I found when I Googled the story to find out what really happened . (Hint: There is no Mexican Pledge of Allegiance. A teacher in a Spanish class ask her students to recite the Mexican National Anthem as a dialogue, just like Mr. Johnson my 9th grade French teacher had us learn "Le Marseilles," the French national anthem. The kid complained and was allowed to do an alternate dialogue, and switch to another class.) http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/22/brenda-brinsdon-texas-sop_n_1107538.html
Or Googling the story to find out what really happened. Check out these websites from the Google search that came up with the story: www.survivalistboards.com, www.ar15.com, www.ihatethemedia.com, www.glocktalk.com, www.fuckfrance.com, www.endtimeheadlines.wordpress.com, www.freedomfighterradio.net, https://www.okshooters.com, www.ak47.net, www.discussions.texasbowhunter.com, www.glennbeck.com, and my personal favorite www.bullionstacker.com.
I can imagine what my old man, who voted for Barry Goldwater and thought Martin Luther King was a communist BTW, would have said if I had come home and ask him to sue the school for asking me to sing the French national anthem in French class. My guess is he would have taken off his belt and beat the hell out of me.
This post was edited by joetheogre on 3/2/2013 at 1:47 AM
"Madness is rare in individuals - but in groups, parties, nations, and ages it is the rule." - Friedrich Nietzsche
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Aaron Burr Cock said...
for entertainment i often visit breitbart's site. it was funny seeing them trying to weasel out of that phoney story on hagel
funny we cant discuss politics but somehow are backdoored, no homo, by these insipid stories on cruel liberal school teachers
This post was edited by 81 Alumnus on 3/2/2013 at 11:30 AM
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81 Alumnus said...
All true, and I'm happy Breitbart himself now has a permanent suntan.
But one, without these stories I would never have discovered the magic of (blank)france.com, which this morning in addition to this story features "First Ape surprises Oscars by presenting Best Picture award," "Antarctic Ice Is Taking Over Planet," and the soon to be Pulitzer winning "N.......r News: Woman Throws Table, Chairs Go Flying During Out-of-Control Fashion Show Brawl." (there aren't really dots in the headline on the website BTW, but you probably guessed that already)
And two, as I watch Jessica Yellin of CNN berate the President for "allowing Boehner abnd McConnell to leave" the White House, and Bob Woodward on CNN hold of piece of paper he says contains a threatening email from Gene Sperling, when we later learned it contained a reply from Woodward telling Sperling how much he admired him and that he had no need to apologize for losing his temper, I'm forced to admit that at least www.ak47.net doesn't claim to be unbiased.
And I betcha (blank)france.com has fact-checkers who would have read the whole e-mail exchange Woodward was selectively quoting from before letting him lie about it. Yep, I believe that.
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Andrew Breitbart and James O'Keefe Ruined Him, and Now He Gets $100,000 - Conor Friedersdorf - The Atlantic
Former ACORN employee Juan Carlos Vera sued after being wrongly portrayed as a willing participant in an underage sex-trafficking scheme. Breitbart still hasnt corrected the item!
www.theatlantic.com You may run like Hayes, but you hit like $*!#
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Heroic Republicans Will Murder Zombie ACORN Again And Again For Freedumb
Remember back in 2009 when selectively edited pimp videos became all the rage? No of course you do not because 2009 was like one million years ago in internet time. Take a trip back to the Mesozoic Era with yr
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American Student Punished for Refusing to Recite Mexican Pledge
By Todd Starnes
A Texas high school student has filed a federal lawsuit against her school and her teachers after she was punished for refusing to salute and recite the Mexican pledge of allegiance.
The Thomas More Law Center filed the suit on behalf of the student alleging the McAllen Independent School District violated the 15-year-old girl’s constitutional rights when she was forced to recite the Mexican pledge and sing the Mexican national anthem.
The student, who is the daughter of a Mexican immigrant and an American father, refused. She believed it was un-American to pledge a loyalty oath to another country.
Ironically, the school district has a policy that prohibits a school from compelling students to recite the American Pledge of Allegiance.
The district also has a written policy that excuses students from reciting text from the Declaration of Independence if the student “as determined by the district, has a conscientious objection to the recitation.”
The recitation of the Mexican pledge and the singing of the Mexican national anthem was part of a 2011 Spanish class assignment at Achieve Early College High School. The teacher, Reyna Santos, required all her students to participate in the lesson.
When the student refused to back down – she was punished, the lawsuit alleges. She was given an alternative assignment on the Independence of Mexico. The teacher gave her a failing grade. The lawsuit states the student offered to recite the American pledge in Spanish but the teacher refused her request. --------
Are teachers really thinking they're doing a valuable educational service to their students or is, this like so many other examples, just another soap box opportunity.
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Well, There they go again