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any good global warming jokes?

  • joetheogre said...

    According to historian Jeffrey Russell, "with extraordinary [sic] few exceptions no educated person in the history of Western Civilization from the third century B.C. onward believed that the earth was flat,"

    And what about before that? Now I'm just curious.

    How about that earth was the center of the univers? Or that the atom was the smallet particles?

    europhilz

  • joetheogre said...

    According to the 2007 Fourth Assessment Report by the IPCC, during the 21st century the global surface temperature is likely to rise a further 1.1 to 2.9 °C (2 to 5.2 °F) for their lowest emissions scenario and 2.4 to 6.4 °C (4.3 to 11.5 °F) for their highest The ranges of these estimates arise from the use of models with differing sensitivity to greenhouse gas concentrations.

    This would be by far the highest temperature change in the hundred year period in the tens of thousands of years that we have relatively reliable temperature information. You can read their methodology as to how they project CO2 output, but even at current CO2 levels, the temperature would still rise significantly.

    Key word - estimates.

    They're not sure as to how much impact human activity actually has. If they were, they'd be reporting on that.

    europhilz

  • europhilz said...

    And what about before that? Now I'm just curious.

    How about that earth was the center of the univers? Or that the atom was the smallet particles?

    Aristotle really perfected the idea in the 300s BC and the idea spread with Alexanders conquest. Pythagoras suggested a spherical Earth as early as the 500s BC, although there was some debates amongst his contemporaries.

    Before that pretty much all bets were off. You have to remember that these people believed a number of ridiculous things, had limited technology, and in as late as 8th century BC there was no writing in Greece (an earlier form had died out around the Trojan War, some 400 or 500 years earlier)

    Aristarchus of Samos postulated Heliocentrism as early as 270 BC. He had some followers but, because there were workable models that explained a geocentric theory, most people went with that until the middle ages.

    The idea of the atom has been around forever. It was mentioned in several texts from the 6th century BC in India. In the west, the particle was of frequent debate. The Epicurean school of philosophy espoused the idea of the atom as the smallest form of matter, and Lucretius wrote on it exclusively in De Rerum Natura. Many Hindu scholars wrote about the earth being made of tiny strings, so string theory isn't exactly a completely new idea either.

    This post was edited by joetheogre on 7/1/2012 at 11:25 PM

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    "Madness is rare in individuals - but in groups, parties, nations, and ages it is the rule." - Friedrich Nietzsche

    joetheogre

  • europhilz said...

    Key word - estimates.

    They're not sure as to how much impact human activity actually has. If they were, they'd be reporting on that.

    We're just gonna have to agree to disagree then. Believe what you want to.

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    "Madness is rare in individuals - but in groups, parties, nations, and ages it is the rule." - Friedrich Nietzsche

    joetheogre

  • joetheogre said...

    Aristotle really perfected the idea in the 300s BC and the idea spread with Alexanders conquest. Pythagoras suggested a spherical Earth as early as the 500s BC, although there was some debates amongst his contemporaries.

    Before that pretty much all bets were off. You have to remember that these people believed a number of ridiculous things, had limited technology, and in as late as 8th century BC there was no writing in Greece (an earlier form had died out around the Trojan War, some 400 or 500 years earlier)

    Six to one - a half dozen to the other ... all I know is that it's been pretty damn hot outside these past few days.

    All this discussion of possible causes for heating up the temperature makes my head throb

    That video which I posted of mankind and cars heating up the temperature makes my head throb.

    johnhunt

  • johnhunt said...

    Six to one - a half dozen to the other ... all I know is that it's been pretty damn hot outside these past few days.

    All this discussion of possible causes for heating up the temperature makes my head throb

    That video which I posted of mankind and cars heating up the temperature makes my head throb.

    Just so you know, john, I appreciate your efforts to keep us abreast of the climate situation.

    EarthyTechnoPop

  • No joke needed. Just saying Global Warming is hilarious. Global Warming....lol Gets me every time.

    Snoop Cock

  • Snoop Cock said...

    No joke needed. Just saying Global Warming is hilarious. Global Warming....lol Gets me every time.

    so, what is your scientific background? let me guess, high school science followed by watching bp commericals

    Aaron Burr Cock