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how about romney claiming credit for detroit bailout

  • i dont even have to try to make a joke like the little dutch boy. it splains itself

    i can offer sort of an observation about what mitty is trying to say: i was a socialist before obama was a socialist

    if he would say that out loud it would make sense to everybody

    next mitty claims credit for saving joan rivers face

    Aaron Burr Cock

  • Aaron Burr Cock said...

    i dont even have to try to make a joke like the little dutch boy. it splains itself

    i can offer sort of an observation about what mitty is trying to say: i was a socialist before obama was a socialist

    if he would say that out loud it would make sense to everybody

    next mitty claims credit for saving joan rivers face

    Mr. Etch-A-Sketch.

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  • The bailout was on tax payers dime.... All of us can claim credit, no?

    europhilz

  • I am personally opposed to the entire bankruptcy process. It's government meddling and regulation that we don't need. Congress should dissolve all of the bankruptcy courts and let the free market work how it should without government oversight.

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  • europhilz said...

    The bailout was on tax payers dime.... All of us can claim credit, no?

    The issue is not the credit for the result but the credit for the decision.

    But generally yes, we can all claim credit for the result, but not for the decision.

    This post was edited by CockAtLaw on 5/9/2012 at 7:27 AM

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  • europhilz said...

    The bailout was on tax payers dime.... All of us can claim credit, no?

    sure, but that wont stop folks from laughing at me if i said it.

    i think it is grand we saved the auto industry, but not happy with the circumstances. what i really dont like is a candidate taking positions like changing magic underwear

    Aaron Burr Cock

  • Aaron Burr Cock said...

    sure, but that wont stop folks from laughing at me if i said it.

    i think it is grand we saved the auto industry, but not happy with the circumstances. what i really dont like is a candidate taking positions like changing magic underwear

    Saved the auto industry? We bailed out private companies and particularly the unions and their pensions on the taxpayer dime...the auto industry was fine...plenty of companies were doing just fine...paying their bills, and making money every time they sold a car. Please be more specific next time.

    maxcy124sc90

  • Should the President be claiming responsibility for "saving" the auto industry? I thought it was the taxpayers who fronted the money and are still owed billions of dollars. Ford survived without taking bailout money didn't they? Why wasn't this an option for GM and Chrysler? Honda and Toyota survived their supply chains being offline for nearly a year due to the earthquake/tsunami. Why can't the union heavy GM conduct business without government handouts? Is the President also going to take credit for "saving" the solar industry?

    theyear2001

  • theyear2001 said...

    Should the President be claiming responsibility for "saving" the auto industry? I thought it was the taxpayers who fronted the money and are still owed billions of dollars. Ford survived without taking bailout money didn't they? Why wasn't this an option for GM and Chrysler? Honda and Toyota survived their supply chains being offline for nearly a year due to the earthquake/tsunami. Why can't the union heavy GM conduct business without government handouts? Is the President also going to take credit for "saving" the solar industry?

    you seem to have a point, but if mitt romney can claim credit for saving detroit, i think obama has as much right for such claims

    all i knows is that whatever obama did, romney was agin it now he is fer it. you make your own conclusion about flip flopping liars

    Aaron Burr Cock

  • maxcy124sc90 said...

    Saved the auto industry? We bailed out private companies and particularly the unions and their pensions on the taxpayer dime...the auto industry was fine...plenty of companies were doing just fine...paying their bills, and making money every time they sold a car. Please be more specific next time.

    You need to contact Dubya and tell him this. He gave the money to GM and Chrysler, Obama followed with more, after the heads of GM and Chrysler told him they wouldn't survive without it. The heads of Ford, Toyota and Honda also lobbied Dubya and Paulson to help GM and Chrysler because they feared being devastated by the loss of their suppliers who needed GM and Chrysler to stay afloat.

    Dubya took the money out of already appropriated TARP money, as did Obama later. It didn't cost the taxpayer anything MORE. It just mean less bailout cash left for Wall Street and the hedge funds.

    Interesting that, as Rick Santorum pointed out, Willard was fine with bailing out his fellow hedge fund managers, but drew the line at Dubya and Obama doing the same for the car companies.

    Somewhere there's a hedge fund billionaire who had to sell one of his vacation homes on the Hamptons just so Dubya and Obama could save a few million jobs in the auto and related industries. And that just breaks Willard's heart.

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  • theyear2001 said...

    Should the President be claiming responsibility for "saving" the auto industry? I thought it was the taxpayers who fronted the money and are still owed billions of dollars. Ford survived without taking bailout money didn't they? Why wasn't this an option for GM and Chrysler? Honda and Toyota survived their supply chains being offline for nearly a year due to the earthquake/tsunami. Why can't the union heavy GM conduct business without government handouts? Is the President also going to take credit for "saving" the solar industry?

    Because when gm and Chrysler were in crisis we were in the midst of the financial sector melting down and there was no one to lend the companies money.

    This post was edited by VBCock on 5/9/2012 at 8:15 PM

    VBCock

  • 81 Alumnus said...

    You need to contact Dubya and tell him this. He gave the money to GM and Chrysler, Obama followed with more, after the heads of GM and Chrysler told him they wouldn't survive without it. The heads of Ford, Toyota and Honda also lobbied Dubya and Paulson to help GM and Chrysler because they feared being devastated by the loss of their suppliers who needed GM and Chrysler to stay afloat.

    Dubya took the money out of already appropriated TARP money, as did Obama later. It didn't cost the taxpayer anything MORE. It just mean less bailout cash left for Wall Street and the hedge funds.

    Interesting that, as Rick Santorum pointed out, Willard was fine with bailing out his fellow hedge fund managers, but drew the line at Dubya and Obama doing the same for the car companies.

    Somewhere there's a hedge fund billionaire who had to sell one of his vacation homes on the Hamptons just so Dubya and Obama could save a few million jobs in the auto and related industries. And that just breaks Willard's heart.

    The only losers were the vultures who bought bad debt and possibly received less on the dollar than they would have gotten from a straight bankruptcy. As you say, these people who knew they were taking on risky debts losing money is weighed against the possible collapse of the entire American auto industry and supply chain.

    Personally, the idea of the government letting the world financial system disintegrate or letting the entire american automotive industry go down seems like an unreasonable length to go to worship at the false altar of the market as all knowing force of efficiency.

    It was a cheap fix.

    VBCock

  • If only I, as a tax payer, could claim credit for saving Blockbuster, Circuit City, Pan Am, AMC, and Compaq. I really hate we didn't sweep in to save these guys financial troubles!

    europhilz

  • Delicious Tacos said...

    Yes, because those companies represent the backbone of our ecomony. lol, stupid faggot.

    There really is no place on this board for that kind of disrespectful name-calling. I think we would all appreciate it if you would stop.

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  • 81 Alumnus said...

    You need to contact Dubya and tell him this. He gave the money to GM and Chrysler, Obama followed with more, after the heads of GM and Chrysler told him they wouldn't survive without it. The heads of Ford, Toyota and Honda also lobbied Dubya and Paulson to help GM and Chrysler because they feared being devastated by the loss of their suppliers who needed GM and Chrysler to stay afloat.

    Dubya took the money out of already appropriated TARP money, as did Obama later. It didn't cost the taxpayer anything MORE. It just mean less bailout cash left for Wall Street and the hedge funds.

    Interesting that, as Rick Santorum pointed out, Willard was fine with bailing out his fellow hedge fund managers, but drew the line at Dubya and Obama doing the same for the car companies.

    Somewhere there's a hedge fund billionaire who had to sell one of his vacation homes on the Hamptons just so Dubya and Obama could save a few million jobs in the auto and related industries. And that just breaks Willard's heart.

    I really could care less if it was Obama, Dubya, or George Washington...completely irrelevant...I'm against corporatism period.

    maxcy124sc90

  • CockAtLaw said...

    There really is no place on this board for that kind of disrespectful name-calling. I think we would all appreciate it if you would stop.

    No way. I like knowing that this type of individual is on the opposite side of the political spectrum as myself. Please tacos, continue to give examples of how your simple mind works.

    europhilz

  • europhilz said...

    No way. I like knowing that this type of individual is on the opposite side of the political spectrum as myself. Please tacos, continue to give examples of how your simple mind works.

    That is one way to look at it. I've had him on ignore for a while. Will you let me know if he ever makes a reasonable post without any namecalling or epithets?

    maxcy124sc90

  • maxcy124sc90 said...

    That is one way to look at it. I've had him on ignore for a while. Will you let me know if he ever makes a reasonable post without any namecalling or epithets?

    I'm not sure that's possible

    europhilz

  • europhilz said...

    I'm not sure that's possible

    We can only hope

    maxcy124sc90

  • Delicious Tacos said...

    lololol faggots so butthurt they wanna ignore me lololol

    I've never been 'butthurt', I'm assuming you can tell us what it's like?

    It's also nice to see that little girls still 'lololol'. I remember my girlfriend in high school used to do that a bunch in text messages and notes she'd write people

    europhilz

  • europhilz said...

    I've never been 'butthurt', I'm assuming you can tell us what it's like?

    It's also nice to see that little girls still 'lololol'. I remember my girlfriend in high school used to do that a bunch in text messages and notes she'd write people

    truly, the ignore option might be better for your own peace of mind. i view dt's comments & as a truly hard core dedicated to the destruction of civilization and all morality, hell, even i am offended

    Aaron Burr Cock