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  • 81 Alumnus said...

    I'm no fan of CBS, and didn't see the interview or the raw footage. I would say logic dictates if they were trying to pull of a distortion they wouldn't have released the raw footage. But that's just the casual opinion of someone who doesn't care. I wouldn't waste a second defending CBS, or NBC, Fox or ABC for that matter.

    I'm more interested in the fact that Ryan has introduced four different bills in Congress that privatize Social Security and Medicare.

    That was a few years ago. His two latest bills privatize Medicare only for those under 55. Given that I'm 52, that doesn't compel me to stay at home in November or cast a protest vote for Nader.

    Also, given that both of Ryan's budgets include the same $700 billion in cuts to the future growth of Medicare that are in Obamacare, and Romney said today that that was "the real danger to Medicare," and the RNC chairman said Sunday that Obama had "blood on his hands" because of those cuts, I'd worry more about what GOP leaders are saying about Ryan's record than what CBS is saying.

    81, here is the uncut interview if you care to watch.

    Quite frankly, this is a diversion from the real issue, jobs/economy, but since NObama and the left continue to attack and the lame-stream media continue to aid & abet that effort, it has to be addressed somewhere/sometime. I will be 52 in October so it does matter to us. The years pass quickly now and, with a 12 year old son whose future hold so little promise under this regime, I am rather more interested in the growth of a Democratic Republic than Nobama's socialist failure.

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    dodgerblue42312

  • johnhunt said...

    I would agree the cons would include 2009, but let us not forget the quote by Obama, "we are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of America."

    don't forget Valerie Garrett's infamous words: "we will be ready to RULE from day one".

    I do believe the 2008 election changed the course of our history, and not for the good.

    dodgerblue42312

  • Absolutely. Do we really want a Community Organizer ruling by executive order?

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  • dodgerblue-42 said...

    don't forget Valerie Garrett's infamous words: "we will be ready to RULE from day one".

    I do believe the 2008 election changed the course of our history, and not for the good.

    no, the banks ran the country before, they still do. not much has changed. it is a fact that every election is declared the turning point of this or that. mostly a lot of hyperbole

    but the man behind the curtain likes the folks to stay interested in the important news of the day. meanwhile, banks are still winning.

    the banks said about valerie garrett: who dat?

    Aaron Burr Cock

  • Aaron Burr Cock said...

    no, the banks ran the country before, they still do. not much has changed. it is a fact that every election is declared the turning point of this or that. mostly a lot of hyperbole

    but the man behind the curtain likes the folks to stay interested in the important news of the day. meanwhile, banks are still winning.

    the banks said about valerie garrett: who dat?

    ABC, would agree to a point, but not "the banks"...it is the Fed. You know, that agency outside public control that the Reps want to audit but the Dems are refusing to bring to a vote in the Senate...

    If they are the enemy, why is the left so against pulling back the curtain?

    dodgerblue42312

  • dodgerblue-42 said...

    ABC, would agree to a point, but not "the banks"...it is the Fed. You know, that agency outside public control that the Reps want to audit but the Dems are refusing to bring to a vote in the Senate...

    If they are the enemy, why is the left so against pulling back the curtain?

    i am not an economist, not interested in ron paul, so i dont want to get into monetary issues

    its simply that we all know an elite runs the country. always has. obama jarrett etal are mere chairs on the deck of the ship, move them about to befit a view. but they aint running the ship.

    if only it were as simple as the gop is bad or the dems are bad. the truth is the nation is pretty muddled up, nobody really has a clue about leadership

    go on believing in the gop, they will save you. ok. i am looking forward to kickoff personally

    Aaron Burr Cock

  • Aaron Burr Cock said...

    i am not an economist, not interested in ron paul, so i dont want to get into monetary issues

    its simply that we all know an elite runs the country. always has. obama jarrett etal are mere chairs on the deck of the ship, move them about to befit a view. but they aint running the ship.

    if only it were as simple as the gop is bad or the dems are bad. the truth is the nation is pretty muddled up, nobody really has a clue about leadership

    go on believing in the gop, they will save you. ok. i am looking forward to kickoff personally

    Barney Frank

    BCSCock

  • Aaron Burr Cock said...

    i am not an economist, not interested in ron paul, so i dont want to get into monetary issues

    its simply that we all know an elite runs the country. always has. obama jarrett etal are mere chairs on the deck of the ship, move them about to befit a view. but they aint running the ship.

    if only it were as simple as the gop is bad or the dems are bad. the truth is the nation is pretty muddled up, nobody really has a clue about leadership

    go on believing in the gop, they will save you. ok. i am looking forward to kickoff personally

    ABC, you complain about the banks & elite running the country but you don't want to get into monetary issues????? Will Rogers, that does not compute!!!!

    The elite are elite because of money. The banks are banks to hoard money. The Fed is the Fed to control money. How can you not want to get into monetary issues if you want to complain?

    The rich are not inherently evil. People run the banks & the Fed. We need a reboot of our entire gov't for sure.. Reps, Dems, & Inds but we cannot just wash our hands of one issue and ignore it. If we open the door on the Fed, maybe, just maybe, the man behind the curtain will seem a little less intimidating and we can move past this malaise.

    dodgerblue42312

  • BCSCock said...

    Absolutely. Do we really want a Community Organizer ruling by executive order

    Funny. I must have missed the memo when everyone decided taking less money out of college to work a job giving back to poor communities was a bad thing. Thats the problem with kids today right? Too many trying to "give back" and not enough chasing the highest paycheck.

    On a sidenote, can you name some successful entrepreneurs/businessmen who went on to be great presidents during the 20th century? TIA

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  • joetheogre said...

    Funny. I must have missed the memo when everyone decided taking less money out of college to work a job giving back to poor communities was a bad thing. Thats the problem with kids today right? Too many trying to "give back" and not enough chasing the highest paycheck.

    On a sidenote, can you name some successful entrepreneurs/businessmen who went on to be great presidents during the 20th century? TIA

    The 2 most successful, Herbert Hoover & George W Bush, were both disappoints as Presidents (Bush's first term was OK, his second was horrible).

    As a sidenote, can you name a President who has done more to harm America's defense, apologized more for American exceptionalism, and trashed the rule of law than Obama?

    Before you throw Nixon out there, he trashed the rule of law but he also built strong defenses and kept America strong/focused after Vietnam.

    dodgerblue42312

  • dodgerblue-42 said...

    The 2 most successful, Herbert Hoover & George W Bush, were both disappoints as Presidents (Bush's first term was OK, his second was horrible).

    As a sidenote, can you name a President who has done more to harm America's defense, apologized more for American exceptionalism, and trashed the rule of law than Obama?

    Before you throw Nixon out there, he trashed the rule of law but he also built strong defenses and kept America strong/focused after Vietnam.

    Oh, my Alzheimers must be kicking in. I could have sworn it was during Dubya's term that we were attacked by Al Queda and lost 3,000 Americans and during Obama'a we caught and killed Bin Laden.

    Thanks for straightening me out.

    And yeah, Nixon was a wiz on defense. The first American president to ever lose a war. And only, what, 18,000 dead American troops in Indochina on his watch.

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  • dodgerblue-42 said...

    The 2 most successful, Herbert Hoover & George W Bush, were both disappoints as Presidents (Bush's first term was OK, his second was horrible).

    As a sidenote, can you name a President who has done more to harm America's defense, apologized more for American exceptionalism, and trashed the rule of law than Obama?

    Before you throw Nixon out there, he trashed the rule of law but he also built strong defenses and kept America strong/focused after Vietnam.

    dodgerblue once more discovers gop good democrats bad. such intellectual acrobatics are astounding.

    being a partisan hack is no great deal.

    obama has trashed laws, so you say. nixon most certainly did break laws, more than obama could dream of. in addition nixon was a paranoid, quite possibly a dangerous man at the end. we are fortunate he did not provoke a national confrontation

    but obama, yep, he is suborning perjury, paying hush money, getting the cia & fbi to play footsie with his henchmen, breaking & entering, broke his oath of office, his attorney general was a plain crook.
    but, we can brush past those small things to see the greatness of nixon, but obama he has destroyed this and that & the fate of the nation hangs in the balance

    balderdash

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  • I am poor and have state issued insurance. Does that make me a bad person?

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  • Aaron Burr Cock said...

    dodgerblue once more discovers gop good democrats bad. such intellectual acrobatics are astounding.

    being a partisan hack is no great deal.

    obama has trashed laws, so you say. nixon most certainly did break laws, more than obama could dream of. in addition nixon was a paranoid, quite possibly a dangerous man at the end. we are fortunate he did not provoke a national confrontation

    but obama, yep, he is suborning perjury, paying hush money, getting the cia & fbi to play footsie with his henchmen, breaking & entering, broke his oath of office, his attorney general was a plain crook. but, we can brush past those small things to see the greatness of nixon, but obama he has destroyed this and that & the fate of the nation hangs in the balance

    balderdash

    ABC, it is beneath me, but I call BS on you.

    Did not defend Nixon simply stated that at least he believed in America.

    But Obama's AG is a crook, his VP is a poster child for idiots, his grasp of what being an American really is does not exist, and our country is NOT better off today than 3.5 years ago.

    FYI, I am anything but a GOP partisan. I am not a Republican and never have been, never intend to be. I am conservative but that party crap is just that, crap.

    As for Nixon, do you understand what he really did? I have studied it and read every book available, pro and con, legal & generic. The break in was to "recover" damaging pictures, not to sabotage the Dems. Whatever you want to believe, you will. Facts are facts.

    Further, if Nixon & JFK were alive today, Nixon would be the Dem (price setting) and JFK would be the Rep (personal responsibility--ask not what your country can do for you...)

    dodgerblue42312

  • 81 Alumnus said...

    Oh, my Alzheimers must be kicking in. I could have sworn it was during Dubya's term that we were attacked by Al Queda and lost 3,000 Americans and during Obama'a we caught and killed Bin Laden.

    Thanks for straightening me out.

    And yeah, Nixon was a wiz on defense. The first American president to ever lose a war. And only, what, 18,000 dead American troops in Indochina on his watch.

    your Alzheimers must be really bad today. Successful BUSINESSMEN was the premise, was it not.

    Nixon lost a war started by Dems, supported by Dems, and tried to help soldiers abandoned by Dems. Read history for the facts. Who started the war ? Who tied the hands of the military? Certainly was not conservatives.

    As for the attack, lets revisit previous posts...IF Slick Willy had taken bin Laden when he had the chance, the attack would never have happened. As a friend of several who lost their lives that day and in battle subsequently, I refuse to allow anyone to get by with such trifle as using it as a political ploy. You need to find another battering ram because that does not fly. Dev Group found bin Laden & eliminated him, not Obama. Presidents don't normally take credit for military action but this one seems to relish it, as does his sycophant followers.

    dodgerblue42312

  • dodgerblue-42 said...

    ..................... Presidents don't normally take credit for military action but this one seems to relish it, as does his sycophant followers.

    Yeah, I remember when Obama put on that flight suit and landed on a carrier flight deck under a Mission Accomplished Banner. BTW he sure looked all-white instead of half-white that day.

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  • 3.0 said...

    I am poor and have state issued insurance. Does that make me a bad person?

    No more than being self insured and rich makes one a bad person. There are good and bad poor...same for the rich(although I would suggest that the President has pretty much demonized the rich despite being rich himself).

    You're a teacher, right?...like my wife(who chose teaching over being a physician...apparently I wasn't very persuasive)...so I'm sure you knew what you were signing up for.

    maxcy124sc90

  • maxcy124sc90 said...

    No more than being self insured and rich makes one a bad person. There are good and bad poor...same for the rich(although I would suggest that the President has pretty much demonized the rich despite being rich himself).

    You're a teacher, right?...like my wife(who chose teaching over being a physician...apparently I wasn't very persuasive)...so I'm sure you knew what you were signing up for.

    A few people care about our kids, 3.0 is one of them.

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  • 81 Alumnus said...

    Yeah, I remember when Obama put on that flight suit and landed on a carrier flight deck under a Mission Accomplished Banner. BTW he sure looked all-white instead of half-white that day.

    further diversion from the real issues. Obama needs to go even if you can not bring yourself to say it.

    He did, however, praise Ryan as a good man, great with numbers, who has a good plan.

    Maybe Obama evolved into "new math" and suddenly his eyes were opened...oh, no, what have I done!

    dodgerblue42312

  • 81 Alumnus said...

    The vote of an individual in South Carolina in the presidential race means absolutely nothing. Same if you live in California, Texas, or New York. That's a fact, not an opinion.

    But it doesn't have to be that way. The Electoral College can be constitutionally replaced just as Citizens United can. Once state legislators chose our US senators(although the Tea Party wants to bring that back, which struck me as odd until I realized its cheaper for the Koch brothers to buy half plus one of a state legislature than a whole state).

    The corporations taking over our nation thrive on this cynicism. They know elections matter. More tax loopholes, fewer prohibitions on pollution to save them a buck, private insurance companies getting their hands on Medicare money. It all starts with their ability to keep turnout as low as possible.

    Many good people have spilled blood & lost their lives for me to be able to vote. Eveery vote not only counts but s/be treasured.
    I am however aware of many Union elections where votes are not "counted"...literally.

    Cockytop

  • Cockytop said...

    Many good people have spilled blood & lost their lives for me to be able to vote. Eveery vote not only counts but s/be treasured. I am however aware of many Union elections where votes are not "counted"...literally.

    drivel. funny how those votes earned with blood, now a lot of gop legislatures are trying to prevent citizens from voting

    in ohio, districts heavily democratic will not be able to stay open late on election night, but those in gop districts will. no, no bias there.

    as for unions, i go for days weeks months & years not thinking about unions. unions dont even hardly exist in america today. but i should be worried

    and unions, they be bad, but big biz they be good

    the above moronic talking points brought to you by the usual suspected fool cockytoop

    Aaron Burr Cock

  • dodgerblue-42 said...

    further diversion from the real issues. Obama needs to go even if you can not bring yourself to say it.

    He did, however, praise Ryan as a good man, great with numbers, who has a good plan.

    Maybe Obama evolved into "new math" and suddenly his eyes were opened...oh, no, what have I done!

    You're playing a shell game and you should know you can't get away with that with me. YOU brought up excessively politicizing political victories. I pointed out Dubya doing it a thousand times worse than anything Obama' done.

    So now you say it doesn't matter. The deal is you hate Obama. It was fine with you when Dubya tried to pimp out the whole Navy.

    And BTW, at least Bin Laden really is dead. The "mission" that Dubya was claiming was "accomplished" when he pulled his childish stunt still had seven years and over 3,000 dead Americans to go before it ended.

    I'd be fine with Obama going if the opposition wasn't a couple of trust fund babies who say the only reason the Dubya years weren't great were we didn't cut taxes enough for the wealthy, we didn't let the banks have even more freedom to do whatever they wanted, and we should have opened a third war in the middle east in Iran to go along with the two we did.

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