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seem warm to anyone? climate change aint going away

  • Delicious Tacos said...

    So how do you account for arctic ice samples that show a clear correlation between thickness(ie how cold a given year was) and the amount of carbon accumulated in that year? How do you account for the clear evidence that Carbon emissions have skyrocketed since the industrial revolution?

    then how do you account for the fact that Europe had its coldest winter in centuries??

    this argument could go on forever.. it is a cycle..

    lvf86

  • Delicious Tacos said...

    Because climate change results in all sort of temperature fluctuations, that's the whole point--feel free to answer mine now.

    pardon but I don't see where you asked me anything!

    lvf86

  • Delicious Tacos said...

    Because climate changes results in all sort of temperature fluctuations, that's the whole point.....

    Based on the longevity of the earth up to this point in time, coupled with my stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night...

    I would make a SWAG that several years of temperature fluctuation is representative of the natural phenomenon known in the scientific community as, temperature fluctuation.

    johnhunt

  • Delicious Tacos said...

    One dude, who actually WASN'T Hansen's supervisor and who left Nasa 20 years ago? Headshot lololol

    Need more?

    Articles: Scientists in Revolt against Global Warming

    http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/11/scientists_in_revolt_against_global_warming.html

    www.americanthinker.com
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  • Home - Global Warming Petition Project

    Home Global Warming Petition We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals

    www.oism.org
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  • gosh, it would be great for football fans who dont know which way their heads are buried up their asses to sign a petition calling on scientists to stop sciencing

    the entire world sans major oil companies & koch brothers & a few outliers sees it one way.

    if rush limbaugh told you it was an issue you would fall in line. you are somewhat dictated to, issuewise here, by a high school graduate druggie head.

    rush was on this first. the rest fell in line. other than most scientists

    thanks to delicous tacos for the good work done. its truly hopeless, like casting pearls at the foots of the perpetually drunken football fans of america. experts on nuclear technology included no extra charge

    Aaron Burr Cock

  • Yet Europe just had it's coldest winter in memory with hundreds dying of exposure.
    Is the planet warming? Maybe,maybe not. Simply study history and note the cycles. Iceland and Greenland once had forests prompting the Vikings to settle.
    Then came along the little ice age. want evidence. Study how the diets of the Viking settlers in Greenland changed. When first settled and for generations their diet was predominantly meat. As the temperature changed it steadily became more fish based. They died out/left because they refused to adopt the lifestyles of the native peoples. Europe before the Little Ice Age had a population explosion. When it started getting colder many died. Most countries adapted to crops that suited their new climate. The French took longer and while debatable some say it was the root of the French revolution
    Point. If so,it is another climate cycle.
    One must be skeptical because some of the current chicken little's were demanding we do something about a coming Ice Age during the 60's and 70's.

    BCSCock

  • Aaron Burr Cock said...

    gosh, it would be great for football fans who dont know which way their heads are buried up their asses to sign a petition calling on scientists to stop sciencing

    the entire world sans major oil companies & koch brothers & a few outliers sees it one way.

    if rush limbaugh told you it was an issue you would fall in line. you are somewhat dictated to, issuewise here, by a high school graduate druggie head.

    rush was on this first. the rest fell in line. other than most scientists

    thanks to delicous tacos for the good work done. its truly hopeless, like casting pearls at the foots of the perpetually drunken football fans of america. experts on nuclear technology included no extra charge

    Another rambling post by you with no facts, or anything even resembling a rational thought. Well done.

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  • BCSCock said...

    Yet Europe just had it's coldest winter in memory with hundreds dying of exposure. Is the planet warming? Maybe,maybe not. Simply study history and note the cycles. Iceland and Greenland once had forests prompting the Vikings to settle. Then came along the little ice age. want evidence. Study how the diets of the Viking settlers in Greenland changed. When first settled and for generations their diet was predominantly meat. As the temperature changed it steadily became more fish based. They died out/left because they refused to adopt the lifestyles of the native peoples. Europe before the Little Ice Age had a population explosion. When it started getting colder many died. Most countries adapted to crops that suited their new climate. The French took longer and while debatable some say it was the root of the French revolution Point. If so,it is another climate cycle. One must be skeptical because some of the current chicken little's were demanding we do something about a coming Ice Age during the 60's and 70's.

    you are aware we have made some technological advancements in computers especially since the 1960s. i should know, i was there.

    the use of supercomputers in conjunction with scientific record taking and the scientific method led to climate change proposals for reform. i guess those supercomputers that concur with the scientists, they were sabotaged by the secret tree hugger police to pollute the tests? we know the scientists at nasa and elsewhere, they too are in on the big conspiracy to fool the world into our new worship of mother earth

    at this point you go down the rabbits hole until you find some caterpillars smoking a hookah ask them directions to the next office of "conspirators for the deity earth" ask the receptionist for a number doctor darwin will see you directly

    crazy talk, just plain crazy

    Aaron Burr Cock

  • Aaron Burr Cock said...

    you are aware we have made some technological advancements in computers especially since the 1960s. i should know, i was there.

    the use of supercomputers in conjunction with scientific record taking and the scientific method led to climate change proposals for reform. i guess those supercomputers that concur with the scientists, they were sabotaged by the secret tree hugger police to pollute the tests? we know the scientists at nasa and elsewhere, they too are in on the big conspiracy to fool the world into our new worship of mother earth

    at this point you go down the rabbits hole until you find some caterpillars smoking a hookah ask them directions to the next office of "conspirators for the deity earth" ask the receptionist for a number doctor darwin will see you directly

    crazy talk, just plain crazy

    I rather enjoy your repeated references to "the scientists". Perhaps you could start naming some of the specific scientists (as I have) that you are referring to. I would be interested in looking into their research further.

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  • Delicious Tacos said...

    So how do you account for arctic ice samples that show a clear correlation between thickness(ie how cold a given year was) and the amount of carbon accumulated in that year? How do you account for the clear evidence that Carbon emissions have skyrocketed since the industrial revolution?

    Carbon emissions really started to boom in the late 1930's - WW2. Why is it then, that global temperatures fell from that time period and continued to fall until the mid 1970's? And furthermore, if carbon emissions had squat to do with anything, then why was the warmest period in history 600 years before the invention of the combustion engine?

    Snoop Cock

  • BigBlairCock said...

    I rather enjoy your repeated references to "the scientists". Perhaps you could start naming some of the specific scientists (as I have) that you are referring to. I would be interested in looking into their research further.

    do i have to explain where supercomputers came from too? or are we okay with them, you got to be sure nowadays with the populace behaving like it has mad cow disease.

    its getting hotter and mad cow disease breaks out. sounds like a good beginning

    Aaron Burr Cock

  • Aaron Burr Cock said...

    do i have to explain where supercomputers came from too? or are we okay with them, you got to be sure nowadays with the populace behaving like it has mad cow disease.

    its getting hotter and mad cow disease breaks out. sounds like a good beginning

    Frost warning tonight. Must be an ice age a' comin'.

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  • cockfool said...

    Frost warning tonight. Must be an ice age a' comin'.

    it is kind of weird aint it. we went all pollen and now here comes a frost. but, soon it will be 90 again, like before april is done.

    having lived this long, i do know there is something a happening here, what it is aint exactly clear, but this crap aint normal maybelle, and i dont care what anybody says.

    places are beginning to disappear under the rising ocean levels. our oceans are beginning to hold huge swaths of dead areas of plastic material manmade just killing all life in an area, more of these will form as we dump our garbage and stuff.

    this confuses me awfully cause pool season approaches

    Aaron Burr Cock

  • Aaron Burr Cock said...

    it is kind of weird aint it. we went all pollen and now here comes a frost. but, soon it will be 90 again, like before april is done.

    having lived this long, i do know there is something a happening here, what it is aint exactly clear, but this crap aint normal maybelle, and i dont care what anybody says.

    places are beginning to disappear under the rising ocean levels. our oceans are beginning to hold huge swaths of dead areas of plastic material manmade just killing all life in an area, more of these will form as we dump our garbage and stuff.

    this confuses me awfully cause pool season approaches

    I feel like I'm reading a Flannery O'Connor short story.

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  • cockfool said...

    I feel like I'm reading a Flannery O'Connor short story.

    or a stephen stills lyric

    johnhunt

  • Delicious Tacos said...

    To answer both of your questions, global temperatures fluctuate all the time--pointing out other fluctuations does nothing to discredit the current one. Why can't I get an answer to my question from anybody here? I submit concrete evidence that carbon in the atmosphere correlates to global temperatures and all any one has done is respond with peripheral questions.

    You're talking out of both sides of your mouth. On one hand you say that human carbon emissions correlate to global temps? But when faced with the reality that global temps actually decreased during the biggest carbon emission boom in history..... you respond by saying 'global temps fluctuate all the time.' Well which one is it? You ever actually think about what you type?

    Snoop Cock

  • Delicious Tacos said...

    They DO fluctuate all the time, but what we're talking about is a gradual increase in average. Just because Justin Smoak hit ~.187 these first few weeks, doesn't mean that his career BA isn't on the upswing.

    Just because there is 1 degree rise in temperature during the past several decades contributing to climate change doesn't mean there won't be an ice age during the next millennium.

    johnhunt

  • Delicious Tacos said...

    They DO fluctuate all the time, but what we're talking about is a gradual increase in average. Just because Justin Smoak hit ~.187 these first few weeks, doesn't mean that his career BA isn't on the upswing.

    Anybody who knows anything about this topic knows that obviously there has been a net avg. global temp. increase since the Little Ice Age. But carbon emissions from man have zilch to do with it.

    Snoop Cock

  • Delicious Tacos said...

    Well, you're just wrong. Carbon is being released into the atmosphere in record amounts, and carbon drives up global temperatures. I've provided evidence, you've provided none. I have every university in the entire world on my side, you have fucking newsbusters. So...you're dumb.

    Its the ignorant, such as yourself, that Obama will be counting on this election. With every post you keep demonstrating your ignorance on this topic, which I easily keep pointing out. Take this last moronic post, for example. You say "carbon is being released into the atmosphere in record amounts, and carbon drives up global temperatures" and yet..........for the last 10 years, guess what? No global warming. (side note: this is also why scientists in droves are leaving the global warming cult of nimrods) If there is this correlation, wouldn't it suggest that with "record amounts of carbon" we would have some warming?

    Anyway, read this fairly recent WSJ article and educate thyself.

    Seriously, read it.

    Sixteen Concerned Scientists: No Need to Panic About Global Warming

    Sixteen scientists write in The Wall Street Journal that there's no compelling scientific argument for drastic action to 'decarbonize' the world's economy.

    online.wsj.com

    Snoop Cock

  • BigBlairCock said...

    Need more?

    Any article that cites Singer and Seitz as authority isn't worth the potential toilet paper it could be written on. These guys have made a career taking private money to sell their titles in the name of doubt. They probably still accept money to deny cigarettes cause cancer. They were the first guys paid by the tobacco companies to sell scientific doubt to the public, even though legitimate scientists had already proven the link.

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  • Snoop Cock said...

    Its the ignorant, such as yourself, that Obama will be counting on this election. With every post you keep demonstrating your ignorance on this topic, which I easily keep pointing out. Take this last moronic post, for example. You say "carbon is being released into the atmosphere in record amounts, and carbon drives up global temperatures" and yet..........for the last 10 years, guess what? No global warming. (side note: this is also why scientists in droves are leaving the global warming cult of nimrods) If there is this correlation, wouldn't it suggest that with "record amounts of carbon" we would have some warming?

    Anyway, read this fairly recent WSJ article and educate thyself.

    Seriously, read it.

    I linked a blog below which briefly discusses your WSJ letter signed by a grand total of 16 people. I understand it is only a blog, but it is helpful because it provides a number of links to other authority, the most important of which is a letter signed by over 250 scientists around the world who are actually experts in climatology (as opposed to other fields of study from which the WSJ 16 came from). That letter which contradicts the WSJ letter was sent to WSJ the next day but rejected for publication.

    Two incontrovertible things: Anthropogenic Global Warming is Real, and the Wall Street Journal is Political Rag UPDATED : Greg Laden's Blog

    The Wall Street Journal has published one of the most offensive, untruthful, twisted reviews of what scientists think of climate change; the WSJ Lies about the facts and twists the story to accommodate the needs of head-in-the-sand industrialists and 1%ers; The most compelling part of...

    scienceblogs.com
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  • Another

    This post was edited by CockAtLaw on 4/11/2012 at 8:42 PM

    Remarkable Editorial Bias on Climate Science at the Wall Street Journal - Forbes

    The Wall Street Journals editorial board has long been understood to be not only antagonistic to the facts of climate science, but hostile. But in a remarkable example of their unabashed bias, on Friday they published an opinion piece that not only repeats many of the flawed and misleading arguments [...]

    www.forbes.com
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  • Another

    Dismal Science at the Wall Street Journal - The Equation

    http://blog.ucsusa.org/dismal-science-at-the-wall-street-journal

    blog.ucsusa.org
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  • Here is a discussion from William Nordhaus, a person cited in the WSJ piece but who is not one of the 16 signors, explaining how the WSJ piece grossly misstates his work and findings.

    Scientists Challenging Climate Science Appear to Flunk Climate Economics - NYTimes.com

    An economist decries the misinterpretation of his work on the economics of climate policy.

    dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com
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