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u.s. showing disrespect to suicide bombers...

  • I am so sorry to read about that. Need to use better judgement and more respect when dealing with murderers.

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    Black Death7

  • what?

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    Never take a sleeping pill and a laxative at the same time.

    JuiceCock

  • Photos with the body parts of suicide bombers. Hopefully, the sarcasm can be seen in my post.

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    Black Death7

  • the rush to villify those troops is dumb.

    we pay them to kill folks then bitch when they pose for photos with the folks we pay them to kill

    makes no sense

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    "Crito, I owe a cock to Asclepius; will you remember to pay the debt?"

    dutch30805

  • These are idiots that chose to strap a bomb to themselves and not care about who, or what, they destroyed when they exploded. Who gives a ____ if out troops pose with these DA's? I mean seriously. They pose with Americans, even if innocent, that they kill. They pose with their own countrymen that they kill. Don't apologize when these idiots blow themselves up and we take photos of it.

    europhilz

  • dutch30805 said...

    the rush to villify those troops is dumb.

    we pay them to kill folks then bitch when they pose for photos with the folks we pay them to kill

    makes no sense

    the rush to villify them is led by the military. i think there is a military code of conduct. we have had many brave and valiant soldiers in our history. there are some isolated cases where men go off & do reprehensible stuff that we, as americans, like to pretend we dont like.

    we just had uprisings over the burning of korans & then the alleged mass killing by the sargent over there recently.

    its not bad enough that its against the traditions of our country & the american military. its also that these kind of stunts wind up costing american lives

    stupid and wrong. you justify it as you will. you have demonstrated a lack of morals already

    Aaron Burr Cock

  • If an individual wads trying to blow my head off, or my fellow troops, I'd take a picture of his parts and then sell his body parts for a profit on e bay, if possible. Guess I don't have any morals.

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    Black Death7

  • Black Death7 said...

    If an individual wads trying to blow my head off, or my fellow troops, I'd take a picture of his parts and then sell his body parts for a profit on e bay, if possible. Guess I don't have any morals.

    and then, as a result of your yuks & bucks, some american soldier gets killed, directly because of your photo, you got no problem with that either?

    there is a reason the professional military does not want their soldiers to behave like gamers

    Aaron Burr Cock

  • Black Death7 said...

    I am so sorry to read about that. Need to use better judgement and more respect when dealing with murderers.

    Military code of honor. I don't have a problem with it per se, but if the military does then I am 100 percent in agreement with that policy.

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    joetheogre

  • You think the enemy is retributive -that they will seek revenge over the contents of a photograph? You are sadly mistaken and misinformed...they will behead their own women for an inappropriate sexual tryst...or for changing their religion from islam to christian.

    They will behead a journalist for a cartoon of a prophet or an American for innocently burning a book of their holy words.

    They threaten retaliation for the assassination of their leader osama.

    They don't need any provocation from a photograph. Photographs don’t fuel their fire of hate…it lights our candle of morality…. they have plenty of hate and retribution to fuel the fires of hell.

    johnhunt

  • joetheogre said...

    Military code of honor. I don't have a problem with it per se, but if the military does then I am 100 percent in agreement with that policy.

    If it would save American lives, as ABCFlag believes, then I would be in agreement with this rule. However, I don't believe these killers need any motivation to kill Americans; they will do it at any given time if the opportunity presents itself.

    I should mention that I don't agree with burning the Koran or anything along these lines. And I of course don't agree with opening fire on a village of innocent people. But when someone tries to murder you, retaliate and celebrate in any way you choose.

    I would be curious as to whether the majority of soldiers agree with this code?

    This post was edited by Black Death7 on 4/19/2012 at 3:50 PM

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  • Black Death7 said...

    If it would save American lives, as ABCFlag believes, then I would be in agreement with this rule. However, I don't believe these killers need any motivation to kill Americans; they will do it at any given time if the opportunity presents itself.

    I should mention that I don't agree with burning the Koran or anything along these lines. And I of course don't agree with opening fire on a village of innocent people. But when someone tries to murder you, retaliate and celebrate in any way you choose.

    I would be curious as to whether the majority of soldiers agree with this code?

    again, you may think its all liberal spin. the military, not the politicians, have said that gruesome stuff like this is just used by our enemies to convince tribes on the edge that americans are just as barbaric as are they

    i dont want to compete with the taliban for honors in barbarism. the greatest soldiers in american history would totally disagree with you, imho. but, i did not serve, i say that for truthful disclaimer. but i do believe what i said

    if some vets have anything to offer i would be appreciative. and, believe me, i know that in the heat of having your friends killed in front of you, some acts of barbarism is almost inevitable. but lord let them be rare. lest we become as those we oppose

    Aaron Burr Cock

  • Black Death7 said...

    If it would save American lives, as ABCFlag believes, then I would be in agreement with this rule. However, I don't believe these killers need any motivation to kill Americans; they will do it at any given time if the opportunity presents itself.

    I should mention that I don't agree with burning the Koran or anything along these lines. And I of course don't agree with opening fire on a village of innocent people. But when someone tries to murder you, retaliate and celebrate in any way you choose.

    I would be curious as to whether the majority of soldiers agree with this code?

    as a Veteran I would never "CELEBRATE" murdering anyone you just realize it is your job at that time and you do it..... fact remains lots of people in Pakistan and Afghanistan all they have to be in life is a "follower".. they want something to believe in and they found it with Al Qaeda and being a "martyr"

    The cause of the first Iraq was was just... the second I am not so sure now.. and I am a devout Republican... I think Saddam Hussein should have been gone but the atrocities performed in Syria are worse...

    lvf86

  • lvf86 said...

    as a Veteran I would never "CELEBRATE" murdering anyone you just realize it is your job at that time and you do it..... fact remains lots of people in Pakistan and Afghanistan all they have to be in life is a "follower".. they want something to believe in and they found it with Al Qaeda and being a "martyr"

    The cause of the first Iraq was was just... the second I am not so sure now.. and I am a devout Republican... I think Saddam Hussein should have been gone but the atrocities performed in Syria are worse...

    Who celebrated murdering anyone? The death of a suicide bomber is murdering someone? I appreciate your service and opinion, though.

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    Black Death7

  • my response was in response to your last blurb where you said

    "I should mention that I don't agree with burning the Koran or anything along these lines. And I of course don't agree with opening fire on a village of innocent people. But when someone tries to murder you, retaliate and celebrate in any way you choose.

    I would be curious as to whether the majority of soldiers agree with this code?"

    and thanks for thanking me for my service.. wish I would have stayed in 20 and retired...

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    lvf86

  • "as a Veteran I would never "CELEBRATE" murdering anyone you just realize it is your job at that time and you do it"

    Different opinion of murdering, I guess. I don't consider killing a suicide bomber, or another individual during battle murdering someone.

    20 years and retire? whoa, didn't know that.

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    Black Death7

  • I will point out that I agree that the people who are trying to kill us will not be swayed by these pictures. The people who may be swayed are the average Afghan citizens who are still making up their minds as to who they want to be more influential in their country, the jihadists who are also muslim although extreme, or the Americans who are christians and burn qurans and, under the laws of Islam, dishonor the bodies of the dead. I am not saying I agree that the terrorists hold any sort of high ground compared to the US, but from an innocent Afghanis perspective, I see how this sort of activity hurts our reputation and enhances that of the terrorist.

    The terrorists make up a small portion of the population, but we as a country will certainly be safer in the future if we have as many moderate Muslims on our side as possible. I do not see how this picture fiasco helps us there.

    I will also say however, that I have absolutely no sense of remourse or regret to this happening to the suicide bombers. I couldn't care less about them. I also feel for our soldiers because who knows how long they have been over there, what they have seen, what they have been through and how it has affected them. I honestly can't say I wouldn't snap either. But that doesn't entirely excuse what they have done.

    In the larger scheme, however, I think the critical element is how this affects our standing in the moderate, average Muslim community at large. In that area of the world, we could use as many friends as we can get, especially if we plan on being everywhere in the world, all the time.

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    CockAtLaw

  • And lvf86, I also thank you for your service.

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    CockAtLaw

  • Aaron Burr Cock said...

    and then, as a result of your yuks & bucks, some american soldier gets killed, directly because of your photo, you got no problem with that either?

    there is a reason the professional military does not want their soldiers to behave like gamers

    I disagree. A photo won't get anyone killed. Will the photo get the blame? At least some, yes. But, these people simply look for excuses to blame there anger on. The photo is only the scapegoat for their idiocy.... like blowing themselves up.

    europhilz

  • Lots of reasonable opinions in this thread...just not a cut n dry issue. My 2 cents is that whenever this type of stuff happens is that we try to keep it "in house" whenever possible as well any disciplinary actions which may ensue.

    maxcy124sc90

  • europhilz said...

    I disagree. A photo won't get anyone killed. Will the photo get the blame? At least some, yes. But, these people simply look for excuses to blame there anger on. The photo is only the scapegoat for their idiocy.... like blowing themselves up.

    do you disagree with the military? cause they are denouncing this as well. i am not against the troops. they have been put in horrible circumstances over and over and over. who is to say what they might do in the heat of war? i am not trying to put them down or anything, but still believe the tradition of west point & what american values are supposed to be, and think this kind of stuff only give aid and ammo to whatever enemy we might have.

    people will kill regardless, but one less or a couple less, that is a good thing. less killing all around. getting our troops out of afghanistan would be a good thing. then we can deal with the trauma these folks have been put through, like a rag through a wringer.

    what would robert e lee have said? or ike? we have a great military tradition, this is not a way of continuing it.

    Aaron Burr Cock

  • Delicious Tacos said...

    Not sure what the problem is, seems like the christian thing to do.

    there is no probelm unless walt whitman says there is a problem.

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    dutch30805

  • Not sure if it's christian-like or not. Is there a verse about an eye and a tooth? Not the humble thing to do, I would agree with that. Some good points in this thread.

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    Black Death7

  • Delicious Tacos said...

    Still thinking about Walt Whitman's penis eh?

    there is no penis unless walt whitman says there is a penis.

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    dutch30805

  • Delicious Tacos said...

    There's also verses detailing how best to select a slave


    If it is a sin (which I'm not sure if it is), the devil might win that round with me , too, if I was in their position.

    I have no sympathy for these individuals trying to kill American solidiers, nor do I think they are deserving of any respect.

    Gotta tip my hat to you if you do. You must be a better man than I am when it comes to this situation.

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    Black Death7