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OT: Reports of a nuclear meltdown coming out of Japan

  • Pray for these guys. Chernobyl was awful, especially for the children.

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  • SCarcock

    Not nearly as bad as being sensationalized by media. Could get worse but right now this is Standard Operating Procedure.

  • This is so NOT sop that I hope you are joking. The building blowing yp is not SOP. Pumping saltwater in a reactor and making it unusable in the future and writing off multiple billions of dollars is not sop. You do nit get it apparently.

  • Railbird said... (original post)

    This is so NOT sop that I hope you are joking. The building blowing yp is not SOP. Pumping saltwater in a reactor and making it unusable in the future and writing off multiple billions of dollars is not sop. You do nit get it apparently.

    What should the have done instead?

  • It's usually worse than what is coming out of the media.

    Partial meltdown being reported now.

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  • article below is pretty good explaining it. as horrible as this all is, there won't be another cherenobly. thank God.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704838804576196760647909824.html?mod=WSJ_hp_MIDDLTopStories

  • spinrbait said... (original post)

    article below is pretty good explaining it. as horrible as this all is, there won't be another cherenobly. thank God.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704838804576196760647909824.html?mod=WSJ_hp_MIDDLTopStories

    Don't know who this guy is but he is certainly minimizing the situation compared to what nuclear scientist being interviewed on the networks are saying. Within the last hour, a 6th reactor's cooling system has failed. If any of the six melt down to the point that they break containment, then unfortunately a Chernobyl like incident is possible, although still unlikely. It is currently a level 4 incident on a scale of 1-7 and expected to go to a 5. The sixth reactor failure may have already taken it to a 5. Chernobyl, obviously, was a level 7 incident.

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  • gococks31 said... (original post)

    Not nearly as bad as being sensationalized by media. Could get worse but right now this is Standard Operating Procedure.

    Just curious exactly how you would know how minimally serious a nuclear facility incidence is that currently has 6 reactor cooling system failures, and how you would know exactly what SOP at a nuclear facility is ???
    I seriously doubt a level 4/5 nuclear facility incident would be considered a SOP situation by most nuclear scientist. Should have checked with the notorious Steve Cook first , I guess.

    Does this come along with your restaurant training, or is it just part of that legend in your own mind, guru ridiculing, daily incessant
    posting that has become an innate part of TBS.

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  • 77 Gamecock said... (original post)

    Just curious exactly how you would know how minimally serious a nuclear facility incidence is that currently has 6 reactor cooling system failures, and how you would know exactly what SOP at a nuclear facility is ??? I seriously doubt a level 4/5 nuclear facility incident would be considered a SOP situation by most nuclear scientist. Should have checked with the notorious Steve Cook first , I guess.

    Does this come along with your restaurant training, or is it just part of that legend in your own mind, guru ridiculing, daily incessant posting that has become an innate part of TBS.

    They have have ordered 200,000 people to evacuate and are ready to distribute iodine tablets. This is a very bad situation that could turn catastrophic at any moment.

    From a WSJ article:

    While experts acknowledged that Japan's nuclear program is very well respected, physicist Ken Bergeron saying that now "we're in uncharted territory."

    "The bottom line is that we just don't know what's going to happen in the next couple of days and, frankly, neither do the people who run the system," added Dr. Ira Helfand, a member of the board of Physicians for Social Responsibility.

    What we do know, he added, is that Japan's nuclear facilities are "way out of whack."

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  • 77 Gamecock said... (original post)

    Just curious exactly how you would know how minimally serious a nuclear facility incidence is that currently has 6 reactor cooling system failures, and how you would know exactly what SOP at a nuclear facility is ???
    I seriously doubt a level 4/5 nuclear facility incident would be considered a SOP situation by most nuclear scientist. Should have checked with the notorious Steve Cook first , I guess.

    Does this come along with your restaurant training, or is it just part of that legend in your own mind, guru ridiculing, daily incessant
    posting that has become an innate part of TBS.

    HEY, YOU CAN'T TALK TO Steve THAT WAY!!!!!!! Don't you know that Spurrier was in one of his restaurants and asked for him by name!!!!!!!!
    Seriously praying for the Japanese though.

    This post was edited by Hosehead 3 years ago

  • gococks31 said... (original post)

    Not nearly as bad as being sensationalized by media. Could get worse but right now this is Standard Operating Procedure.

    in your zeal for attention, i am reminded of charlie sheen, and boy, you are sure a winner with this one

    as i type the third reactor is damaged, meltdown is underway and nobody knows what the long term results will be, or rather, how bad the human toll and that on the land....but from a glorified cook keen for attention you are winning cook

  • dutch30805

    IODINE TABLETS!!! OH NO!!! NOT IODINE!!!

    people are scared of nuclear because they don't understand + the media sensationalizes it. Yes chernobyl was bad but there is literally zero percent chance that will happen in a japanese built/run reactor. 3 mile island was bad but no deaths or injuries were reported as a result of 3 mile island. And those 2 events are the ONLY (repeat ONLY) 2 meltdown events at nuclear reactors.

    meltdowns are not good but human lives are not at risk so long as the containment building contains the meltdown and that is what has happend in japan (there has already been one meltdown) and will continue to happen.

    it's because of irrational fear of nuclear like that shown in this thread that we are just now building our first nuclear reactor since 3 mile island (30 years ago) right now in this country. The arab oil folks love you nuclear chicken littles i guarantee you that.

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  • dutch30805 said... (original post)

    IODINE TABLETS!!! OH NO!!! NOT IODINE!!!

    people are scared of nuclear because they don't understand + the media sensationalizes it. Yes chernobyl was bad but there is literally zero percent chance that will happen in a japanese built/run reactor. 3 mile island was bad but no deaths or injuries were reported as a result of 3 mile island. And those 2 events are the ONLY (repeat ONLY) 2 meltdown events at nuclear reactors.

    meltdowns are not good but human lives are not at risk so long as the containment building contains the meltdown and that is what has happend in japan (there has already been one meltdown) and will continue to happen.

    it's because of irrational fear of nuclear like that shown in this thread that we are just now building our first nuclear reactor since 3 mile island (30 years ago) right now in this country. The arab oil folks love you nuclear chicken littles i guarantee you that.

    how far do you bury your head for best insulation? according to the news i just saw its not under control whatsoever

    i am sure the japanese people are pleased with your blow off of a disaster beyond your understanding

    we stopped building nuke reactors while the japanese have much more modern, state of the art stuff...and how much did that help really, we will never know

    somehow i doubt the folks in japan will be all that sanquine about nuke power plants....in the 1950s those awful japanese radioactive monsters godzilla rodan mothra etc...all these were myths coming out of the nuking of japan in ww2.....expect some scary shit coming out of japanese cinema soon...

    meanwhile...probably not in my lifetime but in the lifetime of most of you youngsters, the united states will likely experience something on the order of what just hit japan

    may god have mercy on the souls cause nothing will help them

  • dutch30805

    Aaron Burr Cock said... (original post)

    how far do you bury your head for best insulation? according to the news i just saw its not under control whatsoever

    i am sure the japanese people are pleased with your blow off of a disaster beyond your understanding

    we stopped building nuke reactors while the japanese have much more modern, state of the art stuff...and how much did that help really, we will never know

    somehow i doubt the folks in japan will be all that sanquine about nuke power plants....in the 1950s those awful japanese radioactive monsters godzilla rodan mothra etc...all these were myths coming out of the nuking of japan in ww2.....expect some scary shit coming out of japanese cinema soon...

    meanwhile...probably not in my lifetime but in the lifetime of most of you youngsters, the united states will likely experience something on the order of what just hit japan

    may god have mercy on the souls cause nothing will help them

    Bury my head? I am right and you have no idea what you are talking about.

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  • dutch30805 said... (original post)

    Bury my head? I am right and you have no idea what you are talking about.

    oh, really, well, godzilla just came out of the bay and is stomping into downtown tokyo....oh no, i have go to go, go go godzilla

    no, multiple reactors possibly melting down killing hundreds of thousands...i mean, how bad could it get...plus the radioactivity could waft over to our west coast and kill some folks there...whoo hoo...glad you know so much, the japanese give thanks

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    Aaron Burr Cock said... (original post)

    oh, really, well, godzilla just came out of the bay and is stomping into downtown tokyo....oh no, i have go to go, go go godzilla

    no, multiple reactors possibly melting down killing hundreds of thousands...i mean, how bad could it get...plus the radioactivity could waft over to our west coast and kill some folks there...whoo hoo...glad you know so much, the japanese give thanks

    your ignorance is funny. Please don't stop.

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  • Trooperdel

    Well, it appears that the strategy of cooling the reactors with sea water appears to be working for the time being.

    I know that has to disappoint all the left wing wag nuts that wanted to capitalize on this disaster for the benefit of their narrow political positions.

    The truth is that, given the benefit that nuclear energy provides the world (clean, efficient, inexpensive electricity in volumes that are sufficient to serve the world's needs), the risks associated with it are minimal.

    Accidents will happen. This event illustrates that when even the most serious and uncontrollable accident happens that the operator had a back up plan in place to allow nearby residents the time to esacape from any pending danger.

    That's really wahat we should ask of the builders and operators of these plants.

    If the MSNBC crowd had their way, we'd all be sitting around fires clubbing animals top death just like we were 3000 years ago.

  • I'm thinking it was probably not the best idea to build a nuclear power plant on/near a fault line. JMHO

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    HellRooster4 said... (original post)

    I'm thinking it was probably not the best idea to build a nuclear power plant on/near a fault line. JMHO

    the earthquake is not the problem with the plants. The tsunami is the problem. It knocked out power which is needed to cool the core and prevent meltdown.

    The problem plants are also very old. Newer ones like the ones being built in america are even more earthquake-proof.

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  • BigBlairCock

    Aaron Burr Cock said... (original post)

    how far do you bury your head for best insulation? according to the news i just saw its not under control whatsoever

    i am sure the japanese people are pleased with your blow off of a disaster beyond your understanding

    we stopped building nuke reactors while the japanese have much more modern, state of the art stuff...and how much did that help really, we will never know

    somehow i doubt the folks in japan will be all that sanquine about nuke power plants....in the 1950s those awful japanese radioactive monsters godzilla rodan mothra etc...all these were myths coming out of the nuking of japan in ww2.....expect some scary shit coming out of japanese cinema soon...

    meanwhile...probably not in my lifetime but in the lifetime of most of you youngsters, the united states will likely experience something on the order of what just hit japan

    may god have mercy on the souls cause nothing will help them

    You obviously know little about Nuclear Power.

    I'd like you to tell me what state of the art stuff Japan has, and how it is superior to the new plants planned for the United States.

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  • BigBlairCock

    Trooperdel said... (original post)

    Well, it appears that the strategy of cooling the reactors with sea water appears to be working for the time being.

    Exactly.

    And feeding water in this manner is a designed back-up safety system in nuclear plants.

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  • Ive seen all the pics from Japan and the pics from the nuclear plants and have decided if there is a 9.0 quake here I want to be in a nuclear plant. This is the left wing media trying to make a huge deal out of nuclear, imo.

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  • dutch30805 said... (original post)

    IODINE TABLETS!!! OH NO!!! NOT IODINE!!!

    people are scared of nuclear because they don't understand + the media sensationalizes it. Yes chernobyl was bad but there is literally zero percent chance that will happen in a japanese built/run reactor. 3 mile island was bad but no deaths or injuries were reported as a result of 3 mile island. And those 2 events are the ONLY (repeat ONLY) 2 meltdown events at nuclear reactors.

    meltdowns are not good but human lives are not at risk so long as the containment building contains the meltdown and that is what has happend in japan (there has already been one meltdown) and will continue to happen.

    it's because of irrational fear of nuclear like that shown in this thread that we are just now building our first nuclear reactor since 3 mile island (30 years ago) right now in this country. The arab oil folks love you nuclear chicken littles i guarantee you that.

    Such trenchant analysis!

    I like how you've boiled down opposition to nuclear power to being too stupid to understand how it works and the dangers it poses.

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  • BigBlairCock

    Beatris said... (original post)

    Such trenchant analysis!

    I like how you've boiled down opposition to nuclear power to being too stupid to understand how it works and the dangers it poses.

    In ABC's case, I can confirm the "stupid" part.

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  • BigBlairCock said... (original post)

    Exactly.

    And feeding water in this manner is a designed back-up safety system in nuclear plants.

    Really? Feeding water in this manner is a designed back-up safety system?

    Pumping seawater into the reactor is definitely NOT a designed back-up safety system.

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    Beatris said... (original post)

    Really? Feeding water in this manner is a designed back-up safety system?

    Pumping seawater into the reactor is definitely NOT a designed back-up safety system.

    Yes. It is.

    There is always a body of water near a nuclear plant. This water is used normally for the plant cooling systems. In case of an emergency injection, the water would initially come from large on-site tanks. In the event that all other safety systems have failed (and there are several safety systems, typically all run in triplicate), water can be pumped directly from the lake, river, or ocean into the reactor building to keep fuel rods submerged, which assists in cooling as well as keeping radiation from becoming airborne.

    Normal and Emergency Intake (Supply) Basins

    Water is supplied from an abundant source - river, lake, sea, or ocean - to a storage basin which, in turn, supplies the large pumps.

    Emergency Intake Pipe

    An emergency intake pipe may be used to provide a direct alternate path to the emergency portion of the system if the normal flow path is unavailable.

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