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$258 K versus $490 K!!! Needs to be NCAA Regulated

  • The recruiting budget for Clemson is almost double ours, the recruiting budget for Tennessee is just under 6 times our budget, how do you say that this is justified competition. Although both of the teams mentioned suck, how do you justify competing with such a large advantage present within your competitors? How does the NCAA justify this ? Here's a link hammer

    The cost of recruiting - ESPN

    Determining just how much to spend on recruiting is a juggling act for programs, writes Mitch Sherman.

    espn.go.com

    fairchip

  • fairchip said...

    The recruiting budget for Clemson is almost double ours, the recruiting budget for Tennessee is just under 6 times our budget, how do you say that this is justified competition. Although both of the teams mentioned suck, how do you justify competing with such a large advantage present within your competitors? How does the NCAA justify this ? Here's a link hammer

    My guess is the NCAA has nothing to do with Athletic department's budgets. I don't get your point? I would imagine our facilities budget is 2x CU's right now. Coaches salaries, weight rooms, etc. Do you reallly want the NCAA regulating your entire athletic department? They can't even regulate themselves.

    BTW, we make more money than CU, so we could spend that amount on recruiting if we wanted. We just don't have to, or chose not to.

    This post was edited by Stouds1 on 6/13/2012 at 8:55 AM

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  • fairchip said...

    The recruiting budget for Clemson is almost double ours, the recruiting budget for Tennessee is just under 6 times our budget, how do you say that this is justified competition. Although both of the teams mentioned suck, how do you justify competing with such a large advantage present within your competitors? How does the NCAA justify this ? Here's a link hammer

    A lot of good that extra $232k per year is doing them.

    CockyTailgater

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    fianchino

  • No I believe the facilities are property of the school. My point is how do you spend 1.479 million on recruiting if schools signing top ten-fifteen classes are signing recruits on 258K? Do they fly, whats the difference?

    fairchip

  • Some schools, such as clempsun and tenn, use a LOT of money bringing in kids from all over the country for OV's that they have no chance with. We don't bring guys in on OV's unless we have a good shot. If I am not mistaken, we have not used nearly all of our allowable OV's the last few years.

    Trust me, if the HBC wants some more money for something, he will get it.

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  • Tennessee has to travel farther and more nationally to get recruits. Their state isn't packed like ours (normally) and they've always recruited nationally. Clemson is good at one thing in terms of football... recruiting. But the only reason they are is because they spend so much money. We'd be right there with them (regularly) if we spent as much on travel and OVs and all that fancy smancy stuff. But Dabo has nothing but the ability to sale, and he's got to bust his ass to do it so he'll have a job. He's got to sale potential to the AD, so he spends a lot of money to try and get the best. Same with Derek Dooley. Too bad we're going to beat them both for a 4th year straight.

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  • UT has always recruited nationally because their instate talent is very weak. We recruit in a smaller area, bring in low OV and have less recruiting staff members than most schools. That is why we are that low.

    stmatthewscock3958

  • REGULATION! Because more government interference in matters the government has no business in and doesn't understand is always the way to make things better.

    Tempest

  • Tempest said...

    REGULATION! Because more government interference in matters the government has no business in and doesn't understand is always the way to make things better.

    Pretty sure the NCAA is not a government agency. confused

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  • fairchip said...

    The recruiting budget for Clemson is almost double ours, the recruiting budget for Tennessee is just under 6 times our budget, how do you say that this is justified competition. Although both of the teams mentioned suck, how do you justify competing with such a large advantage present within your competitors? How does the NCAA justify this ? Here's a link

    "When it comes to assigning dollars for football recruiting, no foolproof formula exists."

    Schools don't have to place every dollar they spend on recruiting in the "recruiting budget". For example, if G.A. Mangus flies to NJ to meet with a prospect our Athletic Dept. could expense that under "travel" instead of "recruiting". These numbers are not an exact apples to apples to comparison.

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  • It's called throwing a bunch of $hit to a wall and hoping it sticks. It's obviously not working seeing how Tennessee and Clemson are both dumpster fires. We're more selective with our evaluations and OVs. Plus the money we save on recruiting goes to other aspects of our athletic department. I'm fine with those mouthbreathers blowing money on recruiting.

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  • fairchip said...

    The recruiting budget for Clemson is almost double ours, the recruiting budget for Tennessee is just under 6 times our budget, how do you say that this is justified competition. Although both of the teams mentioned suck, how do you justify competing with such a large advantage present within your competitors? How does the NCAA justify this ? Here's a link hammer

    I'm not sure why you got all those down votes you were just simply asking a question. Like the other posters said we mainly recruit North Carolina, Georgia, Florida and a little in Northeast so we really don't be a huge budget for recruiting.

    GamecockWorld

  • fairchip said...

    The recruiting budget for Clemson is almost double ours, the recruiting budget for Tennessee is just under 6 times our budget, how do you say that this is justified competition. Although both of the teams mentioned suck, how do you justify competing with such a large advantage present within your competitors? How does the NCAA justify this ? Here's a link hammer

    I dont know if you realize it but we spent over $20 million more on our athletic programs than Clemson did. That trend will continue as long as we take in the$25 million more than them like we have been.

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    drrandycock

  • steve miller said...

    Some schools, such as clempsun and tenn, use a LOT of money bringing in kids from all over the country for OV's that they have no chance with. We don't bring guys in on OV's unless we have a good shot. If I am not mistaken, we have not used nearly all of our allowable OV's the last few years.

    Trust me, if the HBC wants some more money for something, he will get it.

    Yeah I think the 2011 class had 31 OV, and we ended up with 30 commitments. You are allowed 50 OVs, and Tony has said this staff only recruits players they think they can get. Why give a five star who has no interest in your school a free visit that costs you a pretty penny?

    To the OP, we own both of these schools. We dont want the NCAA to regulate expenses because that will end up in profit sharing, and considering we are at the top of the food chain it makes no sense for us to do that. We could spend what UT does, but I think its mostly waste in their case.

    MrNiceGuy

  • Tempest said...

    REGULATION! Because more government interference in matters the government has no business in and doesn't understand is always the way to make things better.

    This post is asinine, keep the politics out of this discussion. The NCAA is not a government agency.

    MrNiceGuy

  • Winning games > any money that you can throw into a recruiting program.

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