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Bruce Ellington

  • Let's not forget that the new 'Head' Pumper wanted that same coach he now is throwing under the bus to get another year as coach!

    The internet has allowed many non athletic people to become wannabe authorities on so many sports they never played or coached.............

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  • 3rdBaseHeckler said...

    May have missed this but is Martin definitely going to allow Ellington to come out for the team after football season?

    Come out for the team? This isn't high school tryouts, YES , Bruce will be on the basketball team.

    VOR ●

  • rmctacdmc said...

    Sorry, but BE pushes the ball recklessly, gets out of position defensively, and simply feeds the post poorly, with bad angles and poor feel for timing. There were hundreds of times our bigs had good position and BE was either to slow, made a poor feed or simply didn't make the feed for whatever reason. Intelligence and BB IQ don't always equate.

    Ummm Horn's gone, so I guess we should blame him for everything, does that include the weather?

    I'm not sure that we missed that many clean post feeds this past year, but we certainly had a lot of missed shots off of good post feeds. Playing inside out requires having guys that convert their opportunities inside.

    Harris was relatively weak, IMO, at finishing the ball from a set back to the basket position, but he was pretty good in cleaning up the garbage. Harris getting a redshirt to work on his touch may really benefit him at UVA or wherever.

    Regardless, Ellington has loads of things to work on in basketball and his choice to split time again means that he is not going to improve much.

    If Martin's kids all qualify, I think Ellington may have a hard time finding a significant role on the team. I just do not see a strong coach who hasn't made any promises to Ellington and who faces very little job pressure to win catering to a kid that isn't fully committed.

    When Ellington shows up in January, he will likely be the same raw talent with the same holes in his game he has been his first two years.

    If Martin has other options who have been working with the team since June and who have the ability to play the position at a reasonably high level, I don't see him pulling them just to welcome Ellington back.

    This post was edited by VBCock on 4/23/2012 at 12:56 PM

    VBCock ●

  • VBCock said...

    I'm not sure that we missed that many clean post feeds this past year, but we certainly had a lot of missed shots off of good post feeds. Playing inside out requires having guys that convert their opportunities inside.

    Harris was relatively weak, IMO, at finishing the ball from a set back to the basket position, but he was pretty good in cleaning up the garbage. Harris getting a redshirt to work on his touch may really benefit him at UVA or wherever.

    Regardless, Ellington has loads of things to work on in basketball and his choice to split time again means that he is not going to improve much.

    If Martin's kids all qualify, I think Ellington may have a hard time finding a significant role on the team. I just do not see a strong coach who hasn't made any promises to Ellington and who faces very little job pressure to win catering to a kid that isn't fully committed.

    When Ellington shows up in January, he will likely be the same raw talent with the same holes in his game he has been his first two years.

    If Martin has other options who have been working with the team since June and who have the ability to play the position at a reasonably high level, I don't see him pulling them just to welcome Ellington back.

    Tarik Phillip is the only incoming player that could keep Bruce out of the starting line-up and that is highly unlikely Imo.

    fog1 ●

  • VBCock said...

    Regardless, Ellington has loads of things to work on in basketball and his choice to split time again means that he is not going to improve much.

    If Martin's kids all qualify, I think Ellington may have a hard time finding a significant role on the team. I just do not see a strong coach who hasn't made any promises to Ellington and who faces very little job pressure to win catering to a kid that isn't fully committed.

    When Ellington shows up in January, he will likely be the same raw talent with the same holes in his game he has been his first two years.

    If Martin has other options who have been working with the team since June and who have the ability to play the position at a reasonably high level, I don't see him pulling them just to welcome Ellington back.

    I agree. I would be very surprised if Ellington starts any game this coming year, barring an injury to another of our guards.

    Jelsik Sturm

  • rmctacdmc said...

    Sorry, but BE pushes the ball recklessly, gets out of position defensively, and simply feeds the post poorly, with bad angles and poor feel for timing. There were hundreds of times our bigs had good position and BE was either to slow, made a poor feed or simply didn't make the feed for whatever reason. Intelligence and BB IQ don't always equate.

    Ummm Horn's gone, so I guess we should blame him for everything, does that include the weather?

    Good to see someone was watching the same BE as I was last year. I will add though that if Martin can control BE and his ability, we may be discussing him differently this time next year.

    Fatubus

  • VBCock said...

    I'm not sure that we missed that many clean post feeds this past year, but we certainly had a lot of missed shots off of good post feeds. Playing inside out requires having guys that convert their opportunities inside.

    Harris was relatively weak, IMO, at finishing the ball from a set back to the basket position, but he was pretty good in cleaning up the garbage. Harris getting a redshirt to work on his touch may really benefit him at UVA or wherever.

    Regardless, Ellington has loads of things to work on in basketball and his choice to split time again means that he is not going to improve much.

    If Martin's kids all qualify, I think Ellington may have a hard time finding a significant role on the team. I just do not see a strong coach who hasn't made any promises to Ellington and who faces very little job pressure to win catering to a kid that isn't fully committed.

    When Ellington shows up in January, he will likely be the same raw talent with the same holes in his game he has been his first two years.

    If Martin has other options who have been working with the team since June and who have the ability to play the position at a reasonably high level, I don't see him pulling them just to welcome Ellington back.

    I totally agree with you on this. I don't see why other posters on here can't see the reality of the situation. Maybe they have a massive man crush on BE? Either way it is what it is and if you can't commit 100% it WILL be hard to compete with the other players no matter how talented you are due to the mere fact that they have been in the system longer and are more likely to understand their respective roles on the team. I am sure even BE would agree with this (he might not like the man crush comment).

    Fatubus

  • Jelsik Sturm said...

    I agree. I would be very surprised if Ellington starts any game this coming year, barring an injury to another of our guards.

    Those guards would be Eric Smith, Brenton Williams, Brian Richardson, Damien Leonard, a freshman PG who is not that highly rated, and a 2G who may not qualify. And they are going to keep BE on the bench ??You always seem to want to blame him for everything, and you thought anyone who wanted to have D. Horn replaced knew nothing about basketball.Bruce is evidently a bad guy for loving two sports and busting his butt for both teams.

    collegejoe ●

  • VBCock said...

    I'm not sure that we missed that many clean post feeds this past year, but we certainly had a lot of missed shots off of good post feeds. Playing inside out requires having guys that convert their opportunities inside.

    Harris was relatively weak, IMO, at finishing the ball from a set back to the basket position, but he was pretty good in cleaning up the garbage. Harris getting a redshirt to work on his touch may really benefit him at UVA or wherever.

    Regardless, Ellington has loads of things to work on in basketball and his choice to split time again means that he is not going to improve much.

    If Martin's kids all qualify, I think Ellington may have a hard time finding a significant role on the team. I just do not see a strong coach who hasn't made any promises to Ellington and who faces very little job pressure to win catering to a kid that isn't fully committed.

    When Ellington shows up in January, he will likely be the same raw talent with the same holes in his game he has been his first two years.

    If Martin has other options who have been working with the team since June and who have the ability to play the position at a reasonably high level, I don't see him pulling them just to welcome Ellington back.

    I totally agree with you. You never know though......it may turn out that BE changes his approach to the game because Martin's approach towards BE will be differant. IMO the kid was given the keys to the city too readily by Horn...no way he should have had the freedom he did..I think it hurt his development as a PG.

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