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Chris Low flexes his SEC muscles at B1G

  • Now everyone go back and read Low's article in Clayton Bixby's accent.

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  • ceece said...

    Because 'best' in college football depends too much on subjective data. Too many teams to have enough common opponent data,

    People always point to the NFL and other playoff formats but tell me another playoff format that leaves the conference (divisional for pro teams) champions out of the playoff? There aren't any.

    That's the argument. Schedules are way way too unbalanced to do it any other way.

    It's so easy to pick out a Tater.

    Try using the I-AA model.

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  • To be honest....as an SEC fan I am fine with the current BCS system. I think it will be an improvement to just do away with the AQ status and remove limitation for conference teams making a BCS bowl.

    What the BIG, ACC and Pac do not understand..is that the SEC holds the Ace. We can simply stay at status quo and continue to rack up title game apperances. They came to the table this year..wanting to expand the model because they were being shut out...and they want a guarantee ie Conference Champions...that they will be included. This is why the SEC/Big 12 title game was such a brilliant move. IMO it was a shot across the bow and making it known..that we are aware of our place..and are not afraind to exercise our power.

    Mark my words..the Big will eventually fold on this issue...because we ain't..and like I said..we hold the ace.

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  • ceece said...

    It has nothing to do with Clemson. In a 4 team playoff, LSU, Wisconsin, Oregon and Oklahoma St were all better.

    I'm not trying to argue my way into Clemson making a 4 team playoff, there are only 2 years where Clenson would have been in one, in 100 years of college football.

    I just believe its sound logic to look at conference champions as the starting point, that must meet a certain criteria.

    Until voters start using rankings as a tool to rank the best teams, getting to the final 4 won't ever work. What I mean is, you lose, you get dropped, some games you drop more than others, and timing of a loss hurts you too. If Oklahoma St had lost to Iowa St in September, then most likely they spend the rest of the season getting back to the top 3, then jumping Alabama after they lose at home to LSU. Instead, OSU loses late and doesbt have the benefit of time or more importantly, other teams dropping like flies to jump them back. Not playing in a conference champ game also gives the idle team a chance to jump in the mix by not doing anything (just sitting back and watching a team in front of you lose, who had already proven earlier that they were better).

    To counter point Chris Low's statement that college football fans want to see the best teams face off for a title, if Bama/LSU were the 2 best like the opinions that mattered said they were, then why was the BCS title game the least watched title game in BCS history? It's because people don't want to see a rematch, it's already been seen and I don't care how bad Bama beat LSU in round 2, they were 1-1 against each other with LSU's win being in front of 95k Alabama fans.

    Conference championships are the building blocks of college football. That's your starting point, because the ranking system is entirely too subjective to be so influential in the system.

    It is not sound logic at all. It is illogical to look at conference champions first. We've already been there and done a version of that. It was called Pre-BCS.

    Unless the field went to 32 team's (impossible), no formula takes out subjectivity of trying to evaluate the top team. Given that, TRYING to come up with the top four us going to be somewhat flawed. Adding affiliations from conferences only adds to the inexactness of the science.

    The "conference champions proposal, regardless of which option is chosen,
    actually puts further restraints into trying to
    identify the best teams for a playoff. It further dillutes an already flawed process. It is worse than what we have now. At least now, we get polls actually trying to Identify
    the best two teams.

    The argument that winning the conference has to happen, because you can't say you are the best team without doing so is so fundamentally flawed it's not funny. There
    are hundreds of examples to the contrary. I'll give just one. Georgia won the East. We didn't. We were better (as evidenced by our head to head). The larger the conferences
    become, the more unbalanced the schedules within each conference will become. Another case in point...UGAs 2012
    schedule vs ours. With that in mind, wining the conference championship in the future will be less correlated to being the absolute
    best in the conference than it ever has been before.

    This post was edited by ospop4690 on 6/2/2012 at 2:08 PM

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