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downvote me, don't care. I had a great feeling about us winning the East this year with our schedule compared to Florida and Georgia's but now, not so much.
With Ace, he gave us a home run threat in the return game. Can he be replaced at receiver, probably. Can he be replaced at punt returner, no. With college football being such an emotional game, that threat at punt returner was huge for us and our team this past season. Now we won't have that.
Why would someone downvote you for stating some good points? I agree with you. It's a huge blow. He led the nation in punt returns and is our all time leader. He made many big time catches on 4th down short yardage situations that is overlooked sometimes. It does hurt our chances to win the East losing a weapon like that.
Valid point, but you make it sound like we've had a home run threat for many years before 2012, at PR.
Thank God that punt returns for TDs don't die with the departure of an underclassman to the NFL.
He is good but the fact is he can be replaced especially at WR. I like Pharoh Cooper to be that guy. I don't think him leaving will stop us from winning the East. He is the only underclassmen leaving for the Draft as other Schools such as Florida and UGa are losing multiple guys to the Draft. I think it is a bad decision but he imo is not good enough to get worked up about. Yes he turned out to be a great returner but he certainly is replaceable.
The only game we would have lost without his punt returns is the bowl game.
I think you should post this on the dawg board.
I think with our defense losing the entire 2 deep at linebacker-all linebacker spots will be filled with players with little to no experience of college ball. Losing our leader on defense in swearinger, devin taylor-especially with alfy hill now not coming, our defense will experience a drop off. Our offense should be the best it's been in awhile and possibly during the Spurrier era. With all that said, I think having a legitimate home run threat on punt returns will be crucial this upcoming season (considering the defensive situation). Now we don't have that. I'm concerned this may cost us.
Ever heard of Damiere Byrd and Bruce Ellington? They can play too ya know. Replacing Moore with Kwinton smith will be a huge upgrade. Oh yeah and Shaq Roland! Our play calling may be a bit different.
On ST, i think we finally have a coach who can scheme so other returners will be successful.
Leaving for NFL is part of being in a big time program. As fans it is time to have a reload, no rebuild mentality.
I just dont agree with this: Leaving for NFL is part of being a big time program.
A big time program is able to keep kids.
I understand LSU lost an entire team, but something has to be going on behind the scenes.
I have no issue with a kid leaving if he gets a first round grade, but a 5-8 WR with a 4th round grade who is a better returner than WR is sad to me. We are a better team with him, but i dont think there is one NFL team that will be better with him next year. Thats how i judge guys leaving early. If the leave is an NFL team going to be better. In this case, no, not a single team in the NFL will be better by picking Ace in the 4th round.
Go! Fight! Win! Kick Ass!
Unscrupulous agents have "runners" on every campus who can get into these kid's heads and steer them away for a few bucks; sad situation, but it happens on every campus
Maybe not even that one. Who knows, we may have marched right down the field and scored even if it was just a fair catch on the punt.
Michigan, Bama, and UGa all have underclassmen leaving early as well so your example of Teams is pretty bad. We have Sutton, Quarles, Hampton coming back. We like UGa, Bama, and Michigan are going to lose talent early to the Draft. We are no different than your examples. Who gives a crap about VT. Who do they have that is worth a sh!t that someone wants. Logan Thomas is a bumb, thats why he is coming back. His Draft stock has fallen faster than Wall Street following 911.
Me thinks that if we continue to have success, some people need to get used to the idea of players leaving early. It happens with all the successful programs.
No, they are good examples, because they have higher rated kids coming back, and we have one kid leaving with a forth round grade. Its spelled Bum, and i agree Logan Thomas blows, but the NFL doesnt seem to think so. He was given a first round grade, but instead chose to come back and learn a new system under a new OC.
My concern now is if Ellington decides to play basketball full time. To lose Ace and Bruce would be a significant blow!
Having a homerun threat at PR is a luxury, not a necessity.
You can't see! I can't see! All that matters is can the f*&%ing horse see! That's a raid!
His punt return against georgia was huge for a 2 possession lead and momentum.
Also, with the defense losing so much, special teams will be important next year and we just lost a key player.
Lol at using uga in your example, they have a ton of kids leaving early and I guarantee some of them go mid rounds. Same with Florida and Tennessee. Are they not big time programs? There are like 30 kids coming out early from just the sec this year, they're not all going high in the draft. Your premise that were different than anybody else or that bigger programs are doing a better job of keeping underclassmen just isn't supported by reality. It's nothing more than handwringing fan drama queen woe is me. And lol at throwing out LSU with "something must be going on there". They disprove your point by themselves.
We've only won 1 east title and 0 championships. I was excited for this upcoming season b/c of offense and ace returning. I'm worried about the defense drop off. Offense should be fine without ace but he was a threat at punt returner not only for td's but for field position. I'm not satisfied with 11 win seasons and no sec championship game appearances.
One guy does not make a team. I feel sure the coaches will work hard to get the next guy ready.
It's a now or never type year for the SEC. We've got some holes to fill though.
They are also keeping kids with a higher NFL ceiling, and a higher draft grade. How do you consider Michigan, Georgia, and Bame keeping players with a higher draft grade. Clemson kept Boyd. You fail to see my point. Those schools are losing players with high draft grades and are keeping players with high draft grades. We have a guy get a 4th round grade and bolt. Good use of "lol" though
Our success for the past three years, our most successful three years ever have been, in large part, because someone else stepped up. It's happened in baseball and it's happened in football. Be it because of one's actions, injury, graduation, grades, or leaving early for professional sports, someone steps up. Odds are we won't be as good of a punt return team next year. Our passing game may well pick up enough to more than compensate. Our run game may be greatly improved while our LB corp will learn under fire. We have a good team and as exciting as he was, we will not fade away because he left early
I think this is a solid post. We have done a good job of having guys step into roles left by guys leaving early.
losing a play maker at punt return shouldnt take us out of sec contention
Contention, no. Does it hurt our chances of winning the east, I think so. Time will tell though.
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