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New rule for next year: instead of just a 15 yard penalty for a helmet hit, that player is now ejected from the game, along with the 1st half of the next game if it's during the 2nd half
cliffs: subjective call now gets players automatically ejected for 4 quarters
ruling: bad, real bad
Wow, that is a stupid rule. These guys have enough problems calling offsides penalties.
Wow. I was thinking out loud with my dad a few months ago about this. He is a formal official. He could have moved up to college ball, but chose not to because of the travel time and distance.
I told him, "it seems to me the only way to stop it is an ejection." He agreed. But we both agreed that its a slippery slope.
I'm not sure how I feel about it. Football is what it is. It's a violent game. And I really worry for its future.
Someone mentioned in the earlier thread it would take a generation to change it. This may be the first step.
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DJ's lucky this rule wasn't in effect in 2012. It's going to force guys to play smart and remain in control at all times.
I hope it will reduce injuries.
"The committee also attempted to simplify the blocking-below-the-waist rule, which was found to be unevenly enforced and difficult to teach to officials, Calhoun said. Now low blocks delivered from in front of the defender anywhere on the field are legal and low blocks from the side or back are not.
"Previously, whether a player could block below the waist depended on his position at the snap, whether he was stationary or which direction he was moving after the snap."
The guy that speared Lattimore's knee from the left after he was already being held from the right didn't even get a penalty. At least that hit would be illegal now.
Let me get this straight.. the ejection is reviewable by video but the 15 yard penalty is not. So in essence you could have the refs overturn the helmet to helmet hit for the ejection but have to keep the 15 yard penalty intact even if it was found to be a clean hit on replay... O boy.
So, does this mean that when Bama's, UGA's, FL's and LSU's players perform helmet-to-helmet hits, that their players will actually be punished with suspensions and ejections like most of the other program? The problem was that the penalty and suspensions were not evenly and fairly enforced.
Wow, when officials cannot accurately call first downs, how will they properly call these subjective penalties which could significantly impact the outcome of 2 games now?!
That was a tackle, not a block. It still is not illegal to tackle below the waist from the side, or the back. That rule applies to offensive linemen, or offensive players blocking defensive players. Tackling is a different thing.
Ally will beat the crap out of Uga.
I haven't read the rule or article, but I think you're referencing "blocking." These rules apply to offensive players who are trying to cut block a defender. It used to be you could cut anywhere. Then they changed it to being from the inside out which means a WR could not come back towards the box and cut a defender. This changes to some degree if a offensive player engages the defender first. At that time, the offensive player can cut him.
The hit on Lattimore was not a penalty b/c he was being tackled. Not blocked. Its unfortunate but there was nothing dirty about it. It just happened that the guy went low while someone had already gone high. You see defenders doing this more and more often b/c RBs are so much bigger and stronger than most DBs these days. Lattimore was just extremely unlucky. Thats what is so crazy about both his injuries. Terribly unlucky
This post was edited by CocksHose166505 17 months ago
Stupid stupid rule
I believe she is referring to the 1st injury against miss st. I think she probably knows the difference between tackling and blocking.
It still wouldn't apply to Latti even against MSU because he was the blocker. The MSU defender was trying to "disrupt" the play and wouldn't have been flagged. I like the rule clarification on that low blocks and LOATHE the idiotic ejection rule. They cannot apply it evenly so they add it a stiffer penalty to it? Man, I'm going to miss DJ, (at times I wish he'd just hushed a bit but that's me) but I'm glad he's gone too. As stated above he would've missed multiple games. IDIOTIC RULE IMO. The wussification is nearly complete...two hand touch is next and then flag football.
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They will all be wearing flags soon.
what a terrible proposal .... hope this does not pass
I understand what you and Steve Miller are saying, and I thank you for the explanation.
However, what was done to Marcus SHOULD be illegal. The guy put his helmet into Lattimore's knee. I don't see how that could NOT result in an injury. He did it on purpose, and he laughed about it.
DJ has been penalized over and over for taunting. Taunting is not a good thing, but spearing a person in the knee is much worse. Taunting might provoke a bad reaction, and it's poor sportsmanship, but I'd rather be healthy with DJ standing over me talking smack than be on a cart leaving the stadium forever as a player.
There are 20 tackles per game where a guy dives at the legs, the knees, from the side of the knee, and what not. It's not dirty to do that, if the kid laughed about Marcus being injured, then he has serious issues, but that wasn't a dirty way to tackle somebody. When a 190lb CB has to tackle a 250lb TE, the only way he's going to do it is to go low. It's not a technique that causes more injuries than any other way. Marcus's foot was planted, and he had his own weight, plus dude from TN's weight on that one foot right when the guy hit him low.
When that happens, it draws a lot of emotions, because it sucks real bad to see such a good guy go down that way. The exact way the guy hit him low, plus the fact Marcus had 400lbs planted on his foot, was just a freak, one in a million-type situation. All the stars aligned for something terrible to happen at that one moment. Who knows why. There is no way the kid could have planned on doing that, and the split second everything happened made it impossible for him to have any intent. Now, if he is claiming he meant to, or laughing about it still, or bragging about it, then he should not be allowed to play football anymore. I can guarantee you the kid did not mean to do that, though.
Not sure why his first injury would matter. He was blocking on the perimeter and got rolled up. No one cut block anyone. He was collateral damage of the Ellington tackle. No offense to either of you, but it's all part of the game. And the UT player didn't intentionally try to hurt Lattimore. Is it the proper way to tackle? No. Is it dangerous? Yes. But it goes on all the time. And her original post was about the rule of cutting people. Not tackling. The rule isn't applicable to defenders unless you're in the NFL and you hit a QBs knees.
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