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Spurrier...I appreciate him plenty
If you can't understand that Bama is the best football program in the country, I don't know what to tell you. Notre Dame hadn't done anything when Kelly took over, but they were still a powerhouse waiting to be unleashed.Bama has the most Championships of any school. They didn't have the best teams all the time, but Bama is the best program in the country. All four of the coaches that got fired before Saban had a 10 win season. The history, facilities, money, prestige and all that makes them the best program in the country.
Saban is a workaholic, which Spurrier is not. Bama recruits for itself. Saban is a good recruiter in how detailed he evaluates, but I don't think Saban actually does any more hands on recruiting than Spurrier does, but he demands more from his assistants than Spurrier does. If Spurrier was at Bama, they would definitely be a power. Who knows how many championships they would have won, but they would have been right there every year.
I do think that Spurrier is a better actual coach than Saban is, as far as during the actual games. Saban is so detail oriented with recruiting, and demands so much from his assistants in regards to recruiting and evaluating. This, along with the prestige of Alabama results in them getting the best players every year.
I don't think you can compare the two because Spurrier took over a Fla program who had never had a 10-win season in their history. It seems so weird, but Fla was a mediocre program with no prestige or history when The HBC took it over. He turned it into a perrenial power. Saban won his titles at LSU and Bama, both of which have some of the most built in advantages of any schools in the country. The only comparable situation is when Saban was at Michigan St. He had about a .580 winning% at MSU, which is much easier to win at than USC was when The HBC took over.
I think people have a hard time understanding how much harder it is to win at some schools vs schools like Michigan, LSU, SoCal, Notre Dame, Texas, and especially Bama. You put Saban at South Carolina, and I don't think he could do the same thing as Spurrier has done. If he doesn't get the best players in the country, it's a different story.
Ally will beat the crap out of Uga.
having coached at the last 2 stops he has coached at LSU and Alabama it doesn't hurt anything either....it's not like when Spurrier came to South Carolina Carolina was set in deep rooted tradition and a juggernaut....Spurrier made Carolina what it is today
Especially when you only work at it part time.
LSU was irrelevant before Saban arrived there. Gerry Dinardo and Curly Hallman weren't coming close to winning the SEC. Saban made LSU the powerhouse that it is today.
This post was edited by MistaQ 18 months ago
Giving my opinions on Gamecocks message boards since 2002.
Don't know what your referring to, but I assume you are saying Spurrier works part-time, which is ridiculous. I think you have an extremely slanted view on The HBC, and how he does things. I bet that Spurrier does as much actual, face to face recruiting as Saban does. Saban probably sleeps in the office more, and rides his assistants to sleep in the office more. Spurrier is one of the most successful coaches of all time, and he has done it without burning himself, or his assistants out. Assistants love to work for him also.
If you want to compare Spurrier and Saban, consider this. Michigan St had a historically better football program when Saban took over, wins, bowls and all that, than Fla did when Spurrier took over there. Spurrier had however many conference championships, at least 10 wins every year, and a NC. Saban hovered around .500 every year he was at MSU, except for his last year he won 9. Saban's record at MSU was very similar to The HBC's record at Duke.
If you think that Spurrier is the better coach that 's a reasonable choice. Spurrier is one of the best coaches ever, especially from the standpoint of his offensive innovations.
I don't think that's accurate. Not working as much as Saban does not equal working part time.
Listen to his interview with Dan Patrick on 1/4/13 and then tell me whether he's working full-time.
Spurrier turned Florida into a powerhouse a couple of decades ago, and has improved our status to much better than we were, but Saban is on another level.
I think Urbs is right up there with him.
Two, I think. Dubose beat Spurrier in the SECCG one year, I believe.
Saban is a great coach, no doubt. But he has the built in advantage of coaching at AL. Could he do the same, as say, Mississippi? Even Finebaum says he wouldn't be able to duplicate his work at another school.
"Never look down on anyone unless you're helping them up."
If he couldn't duplicate Bama's success at another school it wouldn't be for lack of effort. I'd hire him and take my chances.
^^This^^ and IMO, if the talent level of players are equal, I would take HBC every time. Satan probably is a harder working coach, but HBC seems to be able to get "more out of less"...he did it at Duke, UF, and doing it here. When he was at UF, other SEC powers usually outrecruited UF, but UF usually beat them.
Pix of a Passer/King angelfish (saltwater). Got him as a 1.5inch baby. Now, 12 years later, 14inch adult.
Too Long, but they are three titles and a current dynasty apart. That being said, there is only one word to describe what Spurrier has done for us, AMAZING.
This post was edited by jrstrick 18 months ago
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