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At the game it appeared our sideline lacked the necessary emotion. Perhaps I am reaching. However, LSU's sideline was pumping. In that environment I cannot imagine, including the visitor, not being overcome with excitement and emotion. Nevertheless, who didn't give the effort for which Clowney laments? And why?
Not at all I'm glad he called our team out. The must win is in Gainsville and its time to rally the troops and circle the wagons. We need production from everyone on that field this week, so he said what needed to be said.
Not really. Way to early to over react about a loss to a good team in a historically tough venue. I'll be concerned if there is a pattern.
He didn't say effort, he said "scared." That could mean a number of things such as being nervous in Death Valley, scared of making istakes, or scared of getting your butt whipped.
Based on the number of goal line stands, I didn't see any of our players intimidated. It just boils down to the fact that LSU is like Bama in that they have more big and strong athletes than ANYONE in the nation. Sure, they can get upset on the road from time to time, but they are still just head and shoulders above everyone else when it comes to size and strength and speed at all positions. They are average at best at the QB position which makes them beatable when they are off their game.
Our OL is not very good at run blocking and our wr's aren't great and this was proven last night. We can make plays against most teams, but not the cream of the crop in regards to defense-such as LSU and Bama. Sadly, Florida my be nearly as good on defense as these two powerhouses. I don't think they are quite as good; I sure hope I have this same opinion after next Saturday.
This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Black Death7 18 months ago
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I don't remember thinking a particular individual didn't play hard, but then again we gave up 258 on the ground, so its not hard to imagine that some ppl didn't give effort all night. Clowney was making tackles from everywhere. I know he's an elite athlete and player, but geez there's 10 other guys on the field with him too. Too many time we were flat footed trying to make a tackle. You can't stop the run when you are awaiting contact.
Clowney along with many fans need to undestand that not everyone is blessed with the unbelievable talent that Clowney has. Don't confuse effort and toughness with natural God given ability.
Our OL's run blocking yesterday was pedestrian. And no, we don't have a 1st round wr out there yet. But if you are going to blame the wr's, how much will you blame Connor Shaw, or is he just above criticism? Sometimes as a qb you just gotta put it in there. You are not going to have the perfect pass play called all the time. He's gun shy. If you get the ball to our receivers they've proven that they'll catch it most of the time. I can't make the assumption you've made about our wrs until Shaw gives them enough chances to make plays. Shaw threw a great ball in coverage to Jerrell Adams at the goal line. He has to do more of that earlier in the game.
You make a good point. YOu could tell by SOS's comments that Shaw missed on some opportunities for big plays in the passing game. I still think we are better at the QB position than the WR position.
I'm not. I specifically remember guys standing in the hole when the running back was coming. They weren't moving toward the runner. You can't take down a true SEC back if you waiting on him to come to you. Thats effort and toughness. You don't have to make the tackle, but you stop his momentum. You bring your body to the tackle and drive with your legs. I'm not talking running a screen pass you run down from the opposite side. I'm talkin fundamentals you learn in 7th grade football.
I did see this by a couple coupe of DB's last night. But there isn't a football player alive who doesn't occasionally end up on the wrong end of momentum.
It wasn't a great performance, no doubt about it. But you never play your best each week. That is why there are upsets quite often. Hopefully we will be at the top of our game during our next three contests.
This post was edited by Black Death7 18 months ago
This is a good point. Why was our daunting, fearless, talented defense (primarily LBs) oftentimes not initiating the contact and instead absorbing the contact? And in respect to the LSU sweeps and passes to the flats, where was containment? Taylor was non-existent and the LBs and CBs were not engaging out there. This often resulted in LSU's success in third down conversions. Of course, they converted several third and one opportunities out of the red zone up the gut against our interior DL as well.
could be debated, but I see what you saying. Our WR position as a whole is unproven, whereas we know (at least for the moment) what Shaw is and can see his potential. but i feel like get got enough talent at the position to scare teams, UF included. They are going to play us the exact same as UF. If our OLine doesn't come ready, Shaw will have to be THE MAN to get us outta there with a W
Can you not just see that they were more physical than us last night? Maybe we will get another chance in Atlanta and make a few more plays. But the fact is that LSU is more physical (stronger, bigger, faster) than about every tea in the country except a few.
I think that's the most upsetting part. With that patchwork offensive line, alot of ppl (including myself) felt like they wouldn't be able to push us around ALL night. I tried take into consideration that they are LSU, but even then I couldn't picture 258yds on the ground. But thats their game...
That is hard to believe that we let the true and rs freshman do that.
I don't recall seeing the same intensity out of Swearinger. First few games he was taking charge firing our guys up and playing all out.
This whole "intensity and emotion" angle that many are playing on here is baloney. Like many who played can recall, emotion generally goes out the window when you're getting hit in your chops every play.
Our team fought hard and didn't give up, but they were whipped physically on both sides of the ball. They lost by two points to a top ten team in their house in a game where we were 2 point dogs.
I think y'all are reading way too much into Clowney's comments. I think he is just saying we had some guys that were wide eyed and a little shook. Under the circumstances, I can understand.
You can be daunting, fearless, talented, and still be whipped. Doesn't mean you aren't those things.
He's 18 and Mr ESPN for a couple of weeks. One of his friends or coaches may want to talk to him...for all I know it may have been good and well received
BUT he doesnt let his helmet size increase.......should stick with the great ability and hear he has in the game, but that's just me
I am concerned that he chose to say what he did in the press conference, instead of in the locker room. That is what is concerning more than anything. The press conference is not the platform to call your teammates out. He was part of the DL that got manhandled.
If this would have happened at a clempsun presser, we would be laughing at them. Call a spade a spade, it was stupid for Clowney to say that, and was just sour grapes.
Ally will beat the crap out of Uga.
The entire team got manhandled. Shaq had 14 stops, Holloman had 8, Devin Taylor had 5 stops. Everybody on the team got whipped. From Clowney to Brison Williams. LSU is 36-1 at night in their house. If it makes you feel better to blame somebody, then blame Taylor, or DL Moore, or whoever. It doesn't change the fact that we got out played in a very tough environment.
A little bit but apparently the kid is ready to lead and Spurrier confirmed what Clowney said and even went a little further in his teleconference yesterday.
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