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On the other hand, this has to mean that the death penalty is not ever going to be handed down again. If this does not qualify for the death penalty, nothing does.
Penn State will face said a source familiar with the case.
Interesting to read that a one year suspension would be better than what they're getting. I think the one year suspension is the *right* thing to do...that whole community needs to take a year off and reflect on the culture they enabled.
That said, my guess is loss of scholarships, bowl bans, and *maybe* allowing any kids on the team to transfer without penalty? If you read between the lines of that article it states it's trying to punish the institution and not the kids involved.
I also feel that every coach on the legacy staff should not be allowed to coach in football for the rest of their lives.
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Think of all the jobs lost and impact on the surrounding community. Canceling a season would only hurt more people. Bowl ban, lost of scholarships and monetary penalties makes more sense. Those truly involved are either in jail, soon to go to jail, or dead.
Were you sexually abused?
do you think shutting down a football program is going to slow down or stop sexual predators?
the current students staff etc at psu are no more responsible for child molestation than i am for the international arms race
child predators are often smart, cunning people. and, whether psu plays football or not, there will be abuse, in pennslyvania, sc, and all points east north west and east
i am sick of hearing about psu, tom cruise and dabo swinney.
can we have some south carolina sports
All of the coverup was done to protect the program. Kill the program. Make the point that the program is, in fact, not more important than everything else.
I think child sex abuse is on a different level than issues about Dabo Swinney, but that is probably where my conscience kicks in.
Worst sports scandal in US history, by far, with dozens of lives ruined or in consistent upheaval. Yeah that's the same as Dabo.
Of course it isn't going to stop child sex abuse. This scandal is about Penn State, not stopping global sex abuse forever. You want to help the victims heal? Show them that being complicit in a child sex predator's scheme for 15 years is - as it should be - worse than the pay-for-play scam at SMU.
Exactly my thoughts.
Using your logic, no one should go to prison because it's not going to stop crime.
Fitz jumped on the wrong horse
NO but it will stop some other idiot head coach or administrator from covering up such a crime. Maybe next time someone will have the guts to stop such a despicable person.
Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! - Shutting down the football program will send shock waves throughout the college athletic programs everywhere. You are correct that no one can stop a sexual predator; however, by penalizing Penn State to the maximum, the NCAA will be warning everyone that there can be NO EXCUSE for failing to act properly upon learning of such an atrocity. Had that selfish old bastard of a coach at PSU acted appropriately immediately upon learning of what was going on during his watch, we would not be talking about this today. I feel for the 'innocent bystanders' in this fiasco - the students, the small business owners in the community, some of the current staff and team members. However, every time a crime is committed, innocent people suffer. And the punishment cannot be taken lightly or mitigated by saying more innocent people are going to be hurt if severe penalties are levied.
so killing Penn St. football will keep people from hiding a crime like this more than firing everyone involved, sending them to jail and letting the victims sue the schools for loads of cash? Face it, letting the NCAA kill Penn St football does nothing but let a lot of angry people fell better. But what it will do is give the NCAA unprecedented power to hand out punishment for anything it wants.
Heck, the NCAA hasn't even done its own investigation, it simply took the Freeh report on face value and leveled punishment. No due process at all. this precident is awful and I hope Penn St sues in court and wins.
Disagree with your first paragraph. This situation will do nothing to give the NCAA unprecedented power. It already punishes for anything it wants.
Somewhat agree with your second paragraph in that I do think the lack of due process is treading on dangerous ground. But then again, I say due process be damned in this case. They already have everything they need to know without their own investigation. It's like when pscyhos like the Colorado theatre gunmen are caught red-handed and the media refers to them as the "alleged" shooter. Sometimes the crime is so heinous that is just takes due process right off the table.
Massive overreach by the NCAA IMO. Penn State and those responsible should be hammered in the civil and criminal courts, not by the NCAA, which should stick to enforcing recriuting and eligibility rules.
The NCAA is already too powerful. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I'm leery of its grandstanding and its meddling in things outside of its designed purpose, such as it did with the flag boycott.
Whatever the NCAA does is fine... Though I think it should be severe .
That's said ! Take away football from Penn St??? Those people need football more than ever
Agreed. They make up rules as they go.
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