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I started following in the late 1970s. Loved to read stuff from Joe Terranova, even though he was very ND and Midwest oriented.
Took it up a notch around 1980, when I moved to Mauldin. Clemson was in its cheating heyday, and it drove me nuts. Thanks to Phil Kornblut, I was able to keep up with things pretty well. Kept hoping the next recruiting class would push us to the top.
I listened to Phil almost nightly for a long time and also got his newsletter. From there some guy named Plano started a website called Planos Page Three. After that there were a number of websites that evolved. Quite a while ago.
83-84 with local Columbia radio. Don Williams and then Mick Mixon. The PK took over for mick and added his newsletter (the Recruiting News)as well. Mickey Plyler also had a newsletter. (Always slanted to Clemmons) Of course the nat'l mags came out about 90 such as forrest whitaker and deep south recruiting. And then came Plano's Page three. (PP3) The first comprehensive list of Gamecock targets. I wish I could see an old screen shot of how that page looked. I can barely make it out in my mind.
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Former TBS photog coming out of retirement to do sand volleyball for my fans!
Used to call Phil's 1-900 number on Sunday nights to get recruiting updates. Also used to read Plano's page 3 when internet first started. You wouldn't happen to remember that would you?
I followed the same route. Thanks to Plano for creating a lot of early interest.
I had no interest in recruiting until I joined my first USC website and I read a minletcock post and was intrigued then hooked. Minletcock gets the credit from me on getting me hooked.
Late 80's early 90's for me. Used to get Kornblut's news letter too. Superprep,, Tom Lemming as well. I used to get Spurs and Feathers specially mailed to me so that it wasn't delayed when I was living outside of SC. Actually paid extra for that. How times have changed.
This post was edited by Gamecock Jay 16 months ago
I remember reading super prep magazine (alan wallace produced i think) and also watched forrest davis recruiting show.
I started listing to Bob Jubak back in the '70's who was followed by Phil Cornblue in the Spartanburg area. Don Williams was about that time also. Followed Phil for the longest time. Then found the WEB sites for the Gamecocks and have moved over to them.
Over 30 years...first one in Columbia was Bill Wagy, then Kornblut. Max Emfinger and Terranova nationally...also followed Plano's Page3
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Remember flipping channels living in Rock Hill in 90 or 91, stopped on the local access channel which was playing 107 FM and Kornblut was on. He was talking about a recruit named Mercedes Hamilton from Georgia.
I had been interested in recruiting before that, having seen news reports on local news when Tenneyhill and Brandon Bennett committed, but before that night I stumbled upon Kornblut, I didnt know where to follow it. Rest is history.
Btw, whatever happened to Merecedes Hamilton?
I actually started as an adolescent in the early 70's...mainly because of basketball, but I gleamed what I could from football. A lot of our basketball prospects were "known" early on because they were the best ones in the New York City-area. Mostly Catholic school kids, but some public school ones, too!! As soon as I got my driver's license in the mid-70's, I would take my 50 cents to The Plaza Pharmacy on Augusta St. here in Greenville on Sunday afternoons during hoops season & buy the early edition of the Sunday "New York Times". The sports section always had a recap of the area high school games for the previous week. As far as football, my older brother in Cola. had some pretty good connections among the coaching staff as well as some heavy-hitter boosters, so I got a good bit of info from him & it was usually reliable. By the time I got to Carolina in '79, a lot of my info came from "Spurs & Feathers" along with sources mentioned elsewhere above. "Super Prep Magazine" (Allen Wallace) as well as Bill Wagy on WIS radio. Another source then was "Blue Chips" magazine. The NCAA ruled that schools could NOT advertise in that rag. Since college ads were the biggest source of revenue for the mag, it quickly went belly-up despite it's popularity with subscribers. It was a good source back then!!
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"I wouldn't trade the dirt under his (Roche's) fingernails for anyone else's soul"~ Coach Frank McGuire
Steady, I forgot hoops. Loved whe Street and Smith's basketball annual came out each year. Also remember following the Bill Bradley tug-of-war between Duke and Princeton when I was in fifth grade. Speaking of fifth grade, I remember a blurb in The State about ninth grade phenom from NYC named Lewis Alcindor. He did pretty well for himself....LOL.
During the McGuire era, it was fun to see the list of top recruits. We seemed to sign a top 10-20 guy or two every year, it seemed.
I loved The Street and Smith pre-season high school basketball All-American lists. During the McGuire years, I always looked for players from Archbishop Molloy or LaSalle Academy, knowing we would have a good shot. Winters, Joyce, Carver, etc, after Roche and Owens came along. Then Riker from LI, then The Graz.
Somewhere around that time I subscribed to The Poop Sheet (later called the ACC Sportsletter). They had excellent basketball recruiting, and pretty good football recruiting coverage. I also listened to Phil K. a lot. He always had great information and interviews during Shrine Bowl week.
Plano, you were the guru in the early days of the Internet recruiting information. I remember when Derek Watson committed and how excited everyone was.
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Starting left guard on Tennessee’s national championship team; never played in the NFL; went on to teach technology and coach in the Georgia high school ranks.
Started "following" as a child in the 80's from my dad listening to sportstalk on the radio and reading about it in Spurs and Feathers. Interestingly, we moved from Cola to Aiken on national signing day 1992. Tanneyhill headlined that class.
Plano...thank you for mentioning "Street & Smith"- I should have mentioned them!! That annual was one of the first to cover high school players the way they did. As I'm sure you remember, they would have about 5-6 or so "A-A_teams" & then a pretty good list of "High Honorable Mention" & then a fairly lengthy list of "Honorable Mention".... even a section of "Others receiving mention". Sometime in the late 70's there was an ad in the back of Street & Smith's Hoops annual for some "back issues" that were available for order. One was the '68-'69 annual!! I ordered it immediately!! One of the members of the 1st team (which I knew of & was the main reason I ordered that back issue) was a guard from Queens, N.Y. Archbishop Molloy High School named Kevin Joyce!! On the 4th (or 5th team? Gotta dig it out!!) was a 7'2" Sr. center from Winston-Salem N.C. named Danny Traylor (had not realized he was rated THAT highly). On the "High Honorable Mention " list was a junior guard from Archbishop Molloy named Brian Winters. Under "Others receiving mention" was a Sr. guard from Dillon, SC named Casey Manning!! Funny thing about that blurb in The State you mentioned about "NYC 9th grade phenom Lewis Alcindor". My older brother, whom I referenced above, graduated from high school here in Greenville in 1965. He was in a write-up in the old afternoon "Greenville-Piedmont" newspaper from that time. My mom just kept the whole section & it was around the house as I was growing up. Every time I would dig it out & read it, I would see the caption, " NYC's Lew Alcindor, Nation's Top High School Cager, picks UCLA"!!!
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Started following recrutiing back in late 80s/early 90s. Remember listening to Phil religously around 7:30 every night for the recruiting updates. Also, would get the newsletter. His shows on Sunday evenings in January following official visit weekends were a huge deal. Swiched to internet with PP3.
Steve Tanneyhill and Brandon Bennett were two of the earlier recruting victories that I recall.
I vaguely remember the '85 class highlighted by Eliis, but really got hooked around the '94 class when we got A1 and Ben Washington. I suscribed to them all, from BlueChip Illustranted(Now Prepstar), SuperPrep...my fave because unlike most "magazines" they had state rankings and seemed the most OBJECTIVE of all them. Forrest Davis's mag was ok, but it was based primarily on Jr info and didn't refect the kids that "blew up" there Sr year. Had Lemmings also, but like Davis', didn't account for what the kids did their Sr year and was "off" from the others. The guy is such a damn ND homer and unprofessionally it came out in his rankings. Dude loved Dave Roberts however and his USC rankings were influenced with Lou and Robert's South Bend connections during that era. Hard to take him serious.
Like many used to really follow PK's updates, especially his Sunday nt shows in Jan.
I used to do a "composite" like we have with site that comprised of SuperPrep, BlueChip, Forest Davis' and Lemming of USC, Clemson and UGA classes from '95 through about '07.It was intersting to see which propsects were rated highest across the board and the ones that ran the gamut. It got lost in a move and sent smc a copy who used it for kindling.
I also got a kick our of Plyers Southeastern Recruiting pub...talk about slanted rankings, my gosh the poor tater homer couldn't help himself.
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I could have written this..thanks for posting this stuff!! As a bit of trivia, Dan Klores, in his 1980 book "Roundball Culture: South Carolina Basketball", mentioned that at the time of the book's writing, only 4 guys in history had been named consensus First Team All -New York City (includes Catholic as well as public schools) in basketball AND baseball. One was a 1968 grad of Archbishop Molloy High School named Bobby Carver & another was a 1972 grad of LaSalle Academy named John Candelaria. Of course, Candelaria was a pretty high draft pick in baseball & had a nice career as a relief pitcher for the Pirates. As a high baseball pic & as a 6'5"-6'6" "tweener" in hoops, I'm not sure how much interest Coach McGuire & Donnie Walsh had in him, but I do remember him as a prospect!
Started following in 2000 and started writing and covering recruiting for Mike Farrell at Cocksfootball.com (rivals) in 2002.
Steady, funny you should mention the 1968-1969 S&S. I was a hs senior that year, and was disappointed not to be listed....LOL. Yes, Traylor and Joyce were both highly recruited......and Casey was a local star.....so long ago.
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Im a nube...all i got was print newspaper stories etc til about 2002 or 3. It became year-round with "countdown to signing day" mentioning rivals.
Plano...if you had lived in NYC or Indiana (or Kentucky), you may have got a nod as "One to watch"!! (-; Seriously, I knew at the time of his recruitment that Joyce was either the top- rated player in the country or at least in the top 2 or 3. I had heard about Traylor in Winston-Salem at the time too, but just didn't realize he was THAT highly rated. A very, very good prospect, no doubt, but not a S & S All-America!! I guess at the time of his recruitment, i figured a Winston-Salem guy THAT good would be a lock for one of the Tobacco Road teams!!!!
First big time player I remember following as a teen was Todd Ellis. I followed in the late 80's and early 90's. Really got into it when I moved back to area from the Air Force in 95.
I remember Phil telling us about big time recruits that had committed to USC on Sunday nights. I also watched the Saturday morning show that followed Southern Recruiting in the day.
I remember how excited I was to get the QB out of Charlotte. Keith... Matkins maybe? Never did anything. I also remembered how big a deal it was to get Courtney Levitt.
I remember losing out on Sean Ellis and Courtney Brown. The funny thing is I look back over the years and many of the players we gnashed our teeth about losing out on never did much of anything. Those two above though were exceptions to that rule.
"As 'X' says: People are suckers for the truth. And the truth is on your side, Bubba."
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