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Gonna get down voted, please weigh in JC as well.

  • Woodrow,

    I just thought of something when posting in another thread.

    Here is one positive of Dabo being good at recruiting, especially out of state.

    I would rather have those high 4 and 5 star recruits go to Clemson where there is a terrible head coach vs going to a Florida where the coaches there develop thier talent and improve the players. I would rather have great palyers playing for a terrible head coach where thier talents are not used vs playing for a coach that knows how to use thier talent.

  • cockfool said... (original post)

    Good points Finny. I think the same can be said for our baseball model. It starts in state and moves outward from there. I know many a Clemson fan that, while liking Leggett, think he's erred by not putting a greater emphasis on in state talent.

    Thanks cockfool.

    And I agree. When you are a program like SC, success in any major sports(and even minor sports) depends on keeping the best people in state. I am not saying go out of state, but we are doing well in Baseball and Football because our best players stay in state. We are trying to do the same thing in Basketball. It is hard to lure out of state kids to a bad basketball, softball, football, etc.. program because we dont have a rich tradition. It is easier to entice in-state kids to play for a state school.

    UGA and GT are not very good at basketball, but they tend to keep the best basketball players in state.. That is what we need to do. And I am not trying to take this thread to a different topic.

  • "Thanks cockfool.

    And I agree. When you are a program like SC, success in any major sports(and even minor sports) depends on keeping the best people in state. I am not saying go out of state, but we are doing well in Baseball and Football because our best players stay in state. We are trying to do the same thing in Basketball. It is hard to lure out of state kids to a bad basketball, softball, football, etc.. program because we dont have a rich tradition. It is easier to entice in-state kids to play for a state school.

    UGA and GT are not very good at basketball, but they tend to keep the best basketball players in state.. That is what we need to do. And I am not trying to take this thread to a different topic."

    The part about it being hard to lure out of state kids to a bad program is exactly the point. Now Clemson football has certainly done better than Carolina basketball but the point remains, they're not nationally relevant, they had a bad season and yet they STILL landed 3 studs from Florida. Really? You grab one, o.k. Dabo is the man. Boy can he recruit. You get two. Wow, that seems odd. 2 big time talents spuring the in state schools for a 6-7 team. You get three of them and it's I smell a rat time.

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  • Woodrow, you often have some good thoughts/comments. These are not them. Hell no "if" Clemson was cheating - or had a bag man that had business locations and employees throughout the south - they would NOT also cheat in SC. Do you want me to name the 50 reasons it's a "little" easier to pull it off outside of SC?
    I'll give you this. Your head coach recruits harder than ours. The staffs are a wash IMO. You keep winning six games a year and it won't matter how good a salesman he is.

    This post was edited by redfisherman 3 years ago

  • WoodrowST13733 said... (original post)

    Without question....no doubt yall have most talented roster in USC history IMO.

    But if Clowney would have gone to a different HS in a different area of the state...would you have gotten him? How bout Jeffrey? Gilmore? Holloman? Quarles? What if they were out of state?

    What if the in state talent drops off a little over the next few years...will yall be just as good?

    I give Clemson no credit for signing a Bowers...Sapp, Korn, ect. Those kids weren't battles at all. They'd have signed with Dabo, Tommy West, or Danny Ford.

    I just don't think yall have as good of "recruiting staff" as many teams in the southeast...or as good as Clemson, and I think JC would agree.

    I should add...they might be as good...but I don't think they work as hard at it.

    What if the Queen had nuts? She'd be King.

    Give me a break dude. Nobody, Nobody, I repeat again Nobody pulls a single 5 star talent let alone 2 or 3 out of the state of Florida with 7 losses on their record. Go back and look up every 5 star in Florida since 247 or RIvals or ESPN or Scout started rating players. It litterally has NEVER happened.

    You can close your eyes and dream about how great all your recruiters are or you can accept reality. Either there were some shenanigans going on, or the players were vastly overrated, or their were some reasons why the Big 3 including Miami (who is more than willing to pay for them) didn't want them and backed off of them.

    You're a Wolf in Sheep's clothing.

  • Question, you pay to be a member of a South Carolina site or are you allowed to post forums on any site?(I honestly don't know)...if you pay, wow you need a life. As far as your rant...spurrier has a track record..what do you have? National title, heisman trophy, SEC titles, etc...it took a couple years for spurrier to change the culture here, but now that he is building steam all you taters are scrambling. I personally love it. Your "what if" questions crack me up. You can "what if" everything in life, but the FACT is spurrier is rounding the corner with THIS program...stay on the side line of life and keep the "what ifs" and forums on how you have all the football answers...haha pathetic

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  • Woodrow doesn't fool me. He's a Tater. It didn't take him playing a bad round of golf for me to figure that out. I have no problem with his choice of school affiliation. But this verbal diarrhea doesn't need to be on our board. It's one thing to state an opinion on an existing topic..... maybe. That said....it isn't your place, Tater, to rile up this board with tater innuendo.

    Know your place or scram.

  • CockOfAges

    Soul Biscuit said... (original post)

    Verbal diarrhea.

    AKA, logorrhea.

    I agree, btw.

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    WoodrowST13733 said... (original post)

    What 30 jobs are more desirable than Clemson?

    Linked list below that have us 11th, 18th, and 22nd. Sure it's opinion, but you act like we are Utah St.

    http://www.collegefootballcafeteria.com/analysis/top-25-coaching-jobs/

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/554716-the-top-50-coaching-jobs-in-college-football#/articles/554716-the-top-50-coaching-jobs-in-college-football/page/48

    http://www.athlonsports.com/college-football/jobs

    Yeah... those articles and lists are from december 2010. Which is before losing the car care bowl

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