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Will we will be looking for a new coach or two after the bowl game? We have to close better, especially in the years like this where the home grown talent just is not there. We have back to back 10 win season, are in the top 10 for the second year in a row and we have a great story to tell ANY linebacker that will listen. This would not be acceptable anywhere but in coaching where you have to deal with temperamental 17-18 year old kids. The way in which things are falling apart here would be laughable if it did not hurt so bad. In a fortune 500 business a few weeks like this and you would be handed your walking papers. It seems like some coaches need to lay off the good feelings and vibes and hammer these recruits and push them across the finish line. Problems like this tend to snowball and we need to get out in front of it before it crushes us.
There are obviously some glaring weaknesses on our staff when it comes to recruiting.
It starts at the top.
I'm curious. If your company typically never finished in the top 25 in sales of their product, however in the last two years the salesmen hav brought the company into the top 10 in sales. Then the salesmen who brought you there lost a sale or two in the last week, you would let them go?
I would call that an over reaction and a bad business decision. I would think you regroup, go back and look at what has been successful and see if something has changed or if it is just something that happens from time to time and continue to move forward.
you crack me up - hammer these recruits? yeah, that will work.
5 in a row
I say this is definitely an overreaction but Botkin, c'mon man. What are you doing?
The problem is that the members of this sales team that seem to be having the most problems are not the ones who have been recording monster sales numbers over the last two-three years. The ones who are lacking are either the ones who have always turned in average numbers at best or the new guys who seem to be counting sales before the deal is actually sealed. I think your second point is dead on and I agree 100% with regrouping. When we do regroup will changes be made? That is the key question.
Back-to-back 10 win seasons, and 30 wins in 3 years, don't seem to be cutting much ice with recruits. Our coaches certainly have a better product to sell than any staff in our history.
Spurrier...I appreciate him plenty
Someone is out there doing it. We did not lose out on these kids because all the other schools are sitting there just waiting for good feelings and vibes to turn into LOI's. Laugh all you want, it is working for others against us.
And yet we find ourselves in this position. This is an important class for us. It does not have to be a top 10 class but we do need to have key spots filled as this will be a bridge to what all experts agree should be a great class for us. I'm not asking for us to have a top 10 haul but we do need to fill the needs. Especially at LB.
Go get Trooper and we will get Foster!!!!!!!!!!!
That's fair enough. I don't follow close enough to know who is and isn't pulling their weight. But coaching and evaluating are just as important as recruiting.
Don't know who was recruiting Sanders but they did a good job to get him here. Tamu and osu were on him long before we were. It could be argued it was a great recruiting job to even get him to visit. But I agree, it all should be evaluated.
along with the NCAA breathing down your neck
"Talking about history is a hurdle that prevents you from creating it" ---Ray Tanner
Your analogy is absurd. The equivalent of making a "sale" in the sports world, even collegiate sports, is not recruiting, it's winning games. We are winning a pretty fair amount of games, therefore, our "sales" team all deserve raises.
we have a good chance to be 22-4. and folks here want to change our coaching staff. Yea, that makes sense.
Falling Apart ??!! What ?
Our record the past few years had to do with recruiting 2-4 years ago. You have to realize that we probably won't see implications of this class until 2 years down the road. Something needs to be shaken up in the recruiting ranks. That's for sure.
In all fairness this team was built/recruited by a coaching staff that looks much different than ours does today. Jay Graham, Shane Beamer and Elllis Johnson are gone and have been replaced by less than stellar recruiters to date in Sands, Botkin and Brown. If we want to continue this success it takes great players and we aren't exactly reloading to date. Sure some go to far but to just brush it off because of 2e good seasons isn't smart imo either.
"Those who live in the past are cowards and losers" -- Mike Ditka
Yep. Right about the time Coach Spurrier decides to retire.
and dont you think other schools are perhaps using that against us?
what should we do? fire sos & hire a dabo?
More cover for the coaches. They don't stand a chance out there.
Obviously you've never run a business.
Our coaches certainly have BUILT a better product to sell than any staff in our history.
Yet they don't seem to be able to sell the product as well as the less attractive product they were selling a few years back. Why?
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