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So u dont think he can get faster, bigger, or better recieving skills with more work?.....common sense tells me he can.......
I do NOT think that Mayock is even close to the best in the business, especially when he stated that Lattimore would be a late first rounder or second rounder, at best, before any of his injuries. If he had not been injured either time, he would be a top 10 or higher pick.
With respect to Sanders, I can see it both ways. His stock was really high after an impressive Outback Bowl performance, but he could have developed further in a senior season. However, he will have a chance to improve under a pro coaching staff and start making money now.
Hate to tell you but he was right. Lattimore was no top 10 pick. RBs rarely go top 10 unless they have elite speed which lattimore doesn't have.
This post was edited by gamecockguy12 17 months ago
No offense but your opinion in Lattimore is completely delusional. He was never, ever a top 15 guy. Mayocks opinion is right on IMO.
Trent Richardson, also off of at least 1 knee injury, says hello.
Had him in mind when I wrote this because I'm a browns fan. He also had elite speed and was an all-around physical freak with off the chart strength etc. Despite this, he wouldn't go 3rd hardly any year and the browns have been notoriously bad in the draft and he had no business being top 10 either. Way to think one exception proves you're right. Who are you going to throw out next? AP? Lattimore was always back half of the 1st round at best and this was pre-injury when he was the top RB prospect. You're wrong here. Accept it.
It's tough, but I have experience with bad football, as we all do. Just waiting on the "spurrier" administration of the browns to come in and I cross my fingers that were there now.
My understanding is that he's most likely only be drafted as a return specialist and even then a late round choice. Given he just came off a great season as a returner, I guess I figure he wasn't likely to improve his stock much by staying another year. I hated to see him go but I can't criticize his decision.
Trent Richardson had minor surgery, not multiple reconstructions.
Agree. Only 3 first round RBs in the last two drafts.
"People always ask me if I wish I were bigger. I tell them no. I always wanted to be a miniature badass." Dustin Pedroia
TR does not have "elite" speed, but it's great that you know so much more about the qualities of draft eligible players than the pros that work for the Browns. "No business being in the top 10" - SMH.
What makes Mayock "the best in the business"? Has he been a coach or scout at any level? Nope. Was he a long-time or star NFL player? Nope. he was a low draft pick who was waived, then played one game in the CFL, and then had 2 seasons doing very little with the NY Giants. Since then, he has worked covering games on TV which has now made him an "expert" who knows more than actual coaches or scouts. He is an "expert" like you.
This post was edited by swimcock 17 months ago
First, I never called mayock the best in the business. I just agreed that he was right in this one case.
Yes, 4.45 is elite speed for a RB. Would've been 3rd fastest this year. And you're right, the browns have obviously been excellent at handling the draft. All of their top 10 picks have been misses except joe Thomas and Haden. It's funny you call me out for knowing more than the browns front office right after you question mayock who is an expert as scouting amd researching players is all he does. He wouldn't keep making money if he sucked at it.
The OP called him the best in the business.
You do not know more than the Browns' front office - that is absurd.
Mayock does NOT only research and analyze players. He actually spends most of his time covering games for TV. He has never been a coach or a scout for any pro team. He is one of those TV guys that has been "deemed" an analyst by his TV network which is where he makes most of his money. If you are so much better than the pros, then you should also follow the money but I do not see anyone hiring you for your self-proclaimed front office expertise.
BTW - there are several TV guys and girls that suck, just like there are some coaches that suck and still get paid. Happens in all professions since some can get by for a while based on their resume, connections and experience especially if they jump around a lot or have others convinced of their "accomplishments."
Never said I was smarter than the browns front office, I'm just saying that just because a professional sports team' drafted him 3rd overall doesn't mean it was the right decision. Clearly, the browns have a bad track record for around 20 years now with eyes for talent and building with the draft. Not crazy to question a move they make.
Back to the point, RBs are falling further and further every year and unless you're very fast you're not going top 10. Period. He was right about lattimore probably being end up the first round pre-injury because lattimore is probably close to a 4.6 and RBs are a dime a dozen and too off injured to waste high picks.
I agree with you that nothing significant would change by next year. However....a college degree is something that he could have carried with him.
Now...he has to "make it" in the NFL or he could wind up with nothing. Bad choice on his part IMO....but I wish him well.
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