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You know, without a doubt, two things - Javie will protect the profession, just like the NBA does
AND, the Ginobili foul was clear as day.
Many defend it based on it potentially deciding a game, and in this case deciding the Finals. But that's weak, imo. The NBA shouldn't turn in to a free-for-all in the final minutes of a tight game simply bc the refs are afraid that a call might impact the outcome.
Parker got away with murder all game with his hands and there were a ton of fouls that should have been called in the 2nd and third quarters against the Spurs (especially the 3rd). The block at the end will literally never be called in an NBA regular season or playoff game. It was barely a foul and Green was out of control anyway, which he had to be given the time left and the need to get a shot off.
I admit he complains too much, so does every other nba superstar, but they do it because they know superstars get calls from the refs.
No point in arguing that...the ball went out on lebron, and lebron wasn't gonna foul out because of that call
I'd like that too. Thats what we are getting in these finals, good no calls with less questionable ones
Of course. Dismiss Javies opinion and prop up JVD. He's said the official missed calls. Is he not protecting them then?
This post was edited by 97srad750 10 months ago
Not trying to dismiss it, but if the Ginobili drive isn't a foul, then outside of blood being drawn, no swiping down across the arms is ever a foul.
I'm just pointing out that he's not going to throw them under the bus. He's not going to call them perfect, but he's not going to call them out.
He walked before any contact happened anyway.
I won't disagree, but again, an NBA walk isn't a walk. Hell, if I could upload videos directly from my phone I've got a video of Lebron taking 4 steps(changing pivot foot and all) prior to a dribble, then charges the basket and gets hammered. Is it not a foul bc he walked prior to the foul? A walk that isn't really a walk in the NBA
He's called missed calls. It isn't throwing them under the bus, it's the reason he was brought in.
Couldn't you also find videos where a walk has been called though? Including this game. You could also find vids with similar contact and no foul called. Including in this game.
Right, but saying a block/charge call, a shooting foul, etc is a missed call in the middle of the 2nd quarter isn't close to saying the refs missed a call that could have helped the Spurs win a ring, or the Heat to lose a ring.
You seem to have some knowledge w/r/t basketball, and I'm assuming you watched the game - do you have any doubt, regardless of what Javie says, that Ginobili was fouled?
Sure. I'm simply pointing out that a walk that isn't called in the NBA shouldn't mean a foul can't, or shouldn't be called.
I think he gets touched after several steps. I had no problem with the no call, especially given the blatant travel.
I'm thankful that Lebron didn't deke a foul call on Green. Mass hysteria would ensue.
I don't think either of the two plays is a signal of the game being rigged. I don't think you do either though. It's the NBA and we both know fouls aren't always fouls and walks aren't always walks, and that's been going when we were both in diapers.
No. I'm not in the 'rigged' group. Who was it - Leonard, Duncan and Green? fight over Lebrons missed three, knock it away from each other, he gets it back and drills it? That's not rigged. Leonard or Ginobili make FTs it's a totally different discussion today.
I thought it was one of the best games I've ever seen.
He was clearly fouled, but it was clearly after three full steps. I am not an NBA fan any longer and haven't been since the early 90s, but was really pulling for the Spurs. Started watching after the CWS game concluded.
If they would have callled a foul, Miami fans would have had every right to be irate that they let him travel without a call.
Scream rigged all you want, but the Spurs choked hard at the end after LeBron choked hard the last three minutes to give it to them. This was nobody's fault but the Spurs.
Typical haters in this thread I'm not even surprised smh...
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