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Most insurance polices only pay if you suffer a catastrophic injury that prevents you from ever playing again.
who is the last first round pick that did not play an entire year before the draft?
Yes, the 3 years rule is ridiculous. But Clowney is going to play -- and play hard -- next year.
If he were to sit out, scouts would kill him for "character concerns", "questions about effort level", etc. while falling in love with the more recent tape of guys who do play next year. Clowney would probably fall from a top 3 pick to top 15 - top 20 pick and would lose a lot of money in the process.
Yes, a mid-first round pick makes a lot of money. For example, Melvin Ingram signed a 4yr / $8.4MM contract with a $4.5MM signing bonus, which is more than most of us can imagine ever having. But much less than what a guy like Clowney expects to make -- especially if you enter the league and immediately start living the NFL lifestyle. And if he suffers a catastrophic injury during his first three to four years there are no guarantees he ever gets that life-changing money.
Or you could come back to school, play for a heisman, SEC championship, and the #1 overall pick. 12 - 13 games of risk and if he performs like he is capable and stays healthy, Clowney is the #1 overall pick. $22MM with $14.5MM upfront. Seems like an easy decision to me.
Think of the guys who did sit out or try to enter the draft early -- Maurice Clarett and Mike WIlliams. They aren't doing so well financially.
Football is a dangerous game. You can get injured on any play -- practice or game. Heck, guys tear their ACLs just doing drills and workouts. Is he going to decide to sit out of practices as well once he makes the league?
I agree. No way he sits out, nor can he afford to do so. And yes, he will play as hard as ever. But if he could come out, he's not a mid-round draft pick. He's top 5 minimum and most likely 1 overall based on potential.
How come nobody was suggesting that Clowney take a year off in HS? He was obviously SEC ready as a sophomore or junior in HS.
Who the hell are these "gamecock fans" who are upset that Clowney has to play in Garnet and Black for a whole extra year before going to the NFL?
How dare they enforce the rules the same for everyone, even players who are really good? I guarantee nobody in orange is complaining that Sammy Watkins can't leave early. Similarly, no UGA fan is complaining that Todd Gurley has to wear red and gray for another 2 years. We didn't make the rules, but we don't have to change them just because for once they benefit us.
I also don't have time to teach you how to speak hobo.
I'm not a member on any CU board and without being specific as a particular player, the CU players should have left early. My belief is that Dabo should not try to get Boyd, Hopkins, or Watkins to stay.
The point of the original post is to demonstrate the unfairness if the system to men like Clowney, who make millions for their schools. Perhaps if the schools had to buy a policy that paid the player the net difference in the diminution in value of his services in case of an injury, the system would be a little more fair. The payout would be tied to the draft spot the player had been originally projected. The schools could pool merchandise money to fund the insurance policies.
I am open to creative solutions which help the player protect himself financially while he makes money for his school
God forbid we look at this from a human standpoint and what's best for Clowney; we want to win some football games!
Another viable alternative. Perhaps if the players got some of the $ for their jersey's selling (even if it was placed in escrow until after graduation) that would mitigate the financial risks as well.
Clowney can go make money right now playing football if he wants. I'm sure some CFL team would take him. He is not being forced in any way shape or form to stay and play for USC. Doing so is his decision.
You may run like Hayes, but you hit like $*!#
Maybe he wants to win some awards and grow some more. I think it would be great if people left him alone to do what he wants to do. In my life first it was my mother, then my wife, then my daughter-in-law, and now that stupid automated checkout at Wal-Mart has a female voice and it tells me what to do. I feel like telling it where to go. Back off and chill out.
The pt is he doesn't have a choice; the NFL isn't an option and neither is not playing. He should have the choice.
I'm sorry but college football would suck if they allowed players to leave before 3 years removed from HS.
While I strongly disagree with your agenda of wanting Clowney to sit out, I agree with you that the schools and the NCAA should, at the very least, take out insurance policies for all athletes. I also think they should get paid a decent stipend, but that's a different debate.
Schools make so much money off of these athletes that they should at least insure them in case of injury.
Many businesses require a 4-year degree before they will give you a job. The NFL requires you to wait three years. There is nothing inherently unfair about it, since Clowney's ability to make money is conditioned solely on the existence of a pro football league. Unlike someone like Bill Gates, Clowney will not be making a fortune on his own. He will be doing in in the context of the NFL.
You are wrong. He has a number of choices. He could:
1. Play here next year then declare for the NFL draft;
2. Sit out a year then enter the draft; or
3. Go play in Canada.
There are lots of rules in this world that we all have to abide by. Your "he should be able to do whatever he wants" attitude is perplexing to me. Being a professional is a privilege, not a right, and professions are entitled to establish rules and guidelines for membership. If the NFL doesn't want teenagers, then there won't be any teenagers in the NFL.
You can attempt to rationalize it all you want, but we all know his only viable choice is to play here. As for the NFL, you're right, it's their rule. Never said otherwise. Merely suggested they should consider making exceptions under certain parameters. Hey, I'm glad we'll have him, but that's not the point. The point is what's in Jadaveon's best interest. And if we're willing to be honest, we all know that it would be in his best interest to have the choice of declaring for the draft or not.
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I don't have an agenda that Clowney not play. My point is that the current system makes that, perhaps, the best alternative for him.
Something has to be done to make the current system more equitable. The Lattimore injury broke my heart. That young man should not have to suffer financially like he might.
"Never look down on anyone unless you're helping them up."
Clowney wants his Heisman and may stay for his Senior year, if he doesn't win it in '13. He has made it
clear that he want's it; and would be the 1st defensive player to win it. And who the hell is going to hurt
Clowney ?! The BEAST that he is...no worries.
Actually he said he wasn't concerned about making it to NY; his concern was to be the #1 pick. He said that following the Outback Bowl.
Sitting out for a year is the dumbest thing of all time.
By that same logic, NFL players should only play the year before their contract is up. Why risk getting hurt during the other years and risk it.
Better yet, players like Clowney should get their signing bonus, play like their hair is on fire for 5 games, then fake an injury until a couple of games before their contract is up, and sign with the highest bidder. Then, start all over again.
Ally will beat the crap out of Uga.
I'm guessing you never played football or any High School sport for that matter....I played both basketball and football in HS and if I could walk I would play and would never think about sitting out. My point is, Clowney has played football his whole life and it IS going to be is profession and he would prob laugh in your face if you brought this idea up.
Fyi, this clown tried the same thread about 3 months ago too
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