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He's unparalleled by anyone
hard to argue
50 years? Joke I guess.
What Bill Snyder has done is far more impressive.
What Spurrier has done is more impressive, imo.
Saban has won National titles at a school that, what? 5 or 6 other coaches have? He was a 6-5 coach at Mich St. He won nine games one year. D'antonio's record at MSU is better than Saban's. He's won at two of the schools with the most tradition, and richest recruiting in the country. Hardly unchartered waters.
I think he's in the top five best coaches right now. Best in 50 yrs? Not imo.
This post was edited by steve miller 20 months ago
Ally will beat the crap out of Uga.
He is 2-3 vs. Spurrier
Saban could coach Michael jordon and Scottie pippen to a basketball championship.
See what I did there?
So could I!
NOT by anyone......Bear Bryant ! Hello
He is the total package... Recruiting, coaching and PR.
not even the best coach in Alabama history
still, what he's doing in this day of 85 scholarships is very impressive
The man-love in here is strong.
Think about the history at K St, then look at what Snyder did the first time. Look at how quickly they fell back to beyond terrible. Look at how quickly Snyder put them back as one of the top programs in the country. What Saban has done at Bama is impressive, but not even in the same league of difficulty of what Snyder has done.
USC has been a joke of a program for 100 yrs. Spurrier has us as a perennial SEC challenger now, thus one of the top programs in the country. Bama has always been the best program in the SEC. I'm sorry, but I just don't think that job is as difficult as some others. He's taken the best program in college football history, and made them the best.....
So how did the 3 coaches before Saban do there?
This post was edited by BCMCock05 20 months ago
He is the best coach in college football indeed currently, although he couldn't do what Spurrier did at Florida, Duke or USC IMO. Best in last 50 years? Lol, that's a bit much iyam. Bobby Bowden, Eddie Robinson, Parsegian, Woody Hayes, etc. lets get real before throw out 50 years. Alabama recruits itself. Outside of LSU and Arky(Petrino era), no one challenges them in that division. Also, it's a travesty they payed for the national title last year when they didn't even win their conference or division for that matter, on their home field IMHO.
"Never look down on anyone unless you're helping them up."
No doubt he's good but it's still a perfect storm. He's a great college coach on the fundamental and discipline level but he's not some kind of X and O guru. He wouldn't do much with average talent.
here is the flip side of the coin to that: poor auburn & gene chizik...uh, they went out & bought cam newtwon & this guy a couple of years ago because nick saban had bama on top
now, saban clearly has the best team again & i am wondering how much money is auburn going to shell out to catch up?
auburn has a top recruiting class....hmm....i wonder why....how much better could it be when auburn decides to release the kracken again?
No. He's the best at having the best players.
yeah, must be tough having 4-5 star players on your entire 2 deep roster.
Didn't one of them win a national title? I recall bama winning one not too long before saban.
You mean the one in 1992?
Saban has proven he is a very good coach. He is great with x's and o's and proven he can recruit at LSU and at Bama. Mike Dubose & Mike Shula proved that not just anyone can recruit and win at Bama.
That being said, I also believe what Snyder has done at K-State (two different stints) and what Spurrier has done at USC (also at Duke & Florida) are more impressive than Saban winning at Bama. I believe Snyder and Spurrier could both win at Bama and compete for SEC and National Championships even in this late stage of their coaching careers.
The question to debate is could Saban recruit and win at K-State or USC or at a school today that would be comparable to Duke in the late 80's. For the record I think he probably could. However that still does not make what he is doing at Alabama more impressive than Snyder's or Spurrier's body of work over their careers.
If Spurrier had taken the Bama job and Saban had gotten the USC job, chances are the records at both schools would be pretty much the same as they are today. JMHO.
Mike Dubose, Mike Shula, and Dennis Francione all had 10-win seasons. Fran's 2nd, and last season, he won 10 games. That's the difference. If you don't win at least the SEC in 3 yrs there, you are gone.
Take Dennis's record the first 2 years at Bama: 17-8. His first two years at aTm: 11-13. aTm is in a recruiting hotbed, and is one of the better jobs in the country. They have tons of money, and outstanding facilities. The other two are not head coaches now. It shows that you can be a bad coach, and still have very successful years at Bama. That is my point: taking the best program in college football and making it the best does not take the best coach in the country. He's good, but there are better coaches out there. Snyder is the best. Spurrier has taken on a WAY bigger challenge two times, and been very successful. If recruiting was a process of players just signing up at programs, where the coaches did not talk to them, Bama would have the best recruiting classes in the country every year.
So, give Saban and Spurrier the same players, who wins? Alabama has proven that they are willing to put all of their resources into football. You don't see too many Naty's in basketball or baseball there do you?
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