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The bigger factor is the total lack of offensive play making talent in this upcoming draft. It's abysmal. Ace could drastically improve his stats next year, but not gain any ground because it is hard to believe the 2014 draft will be as thin offensively as this years draft. Hell, Tavon Austin is #3 according to CBS Sports and he's only 5'9". Seriously, take a look at the link below and tell me who jumps out at you as being that much more of a sure thing to be a playmaker at WR than Ace. That's the biggest positive to Ace coming out this year, the competition.
He needs to talk to Swearinger. Swagg did a lot for himself this year IMO, went from 7th round pick to 3-4 round. Ace could see similar results
Returners don't really matter in the NFL with kickoffs anymore and while he is a good college punt returner he would be ok in the league
Fifth round, IMO.. He isn't better than Ko Simpson.
Guys, I hate to tell you this but the pro scouts don't care about stats, especially with mid round draft picks. 30 or 60 catches, they could care less. They care about how his skill set and potential translates at the next level. I remember Marcus Robinson who had like what, 4 catches in his Carolina career but went in the first 5 rounds and had a decent NFL career. He was 6"4" and had sprinters speed. They drafted him because of that.
Ace has a chance to be a punt returner and situational receiver in the NFL. He's got the best film of his career to showcase from the Outback bowl. Think Joe Adams with the Carolina Panthers who went in the 3rd or 4th round last year.They have similar skill sets and size. As has been stated, he's not going to get taller, quicker or faster with another year. He's not going to be a first or second round pick no matter what based on his size. Guys his size are always a longshot but sometimes longshots make it. Like Captain Munnerlyn.
I think a lot of people who post on this matter don't have Ace's best interests in heart at all. They're thinking about next year's Carolina team and yes, if he leaves it will hurt a lot. Personally, I think if he gets a 3-5 round projection he might as well go. It won't significantly improve with another year and you always have the chance of injury.
This post was edited by 77Cock 18 months ago
Agree completely. Well said.
"Those who live in the past are cowards and losers" -- Mike Ditka
Not true at all. They care about measurables and projections, but especially if you are 5'7 and run a 4.5 might be good to have some production to sweeten the deal.
I don't actually think anyone in the thread would mind if he went early, but if I were he I would consider the possibility a degree might be a good backup plan. He isn't guaranteed to make a team, IMO.
I actually think if you do not like school and are sure to get drafted why not get paid to get better.
This post was edited by VBCock 18 months ago
In this offense, if we can run the ball effectively we're going to run it as much as possible. That's been proven. Connor Shaw is not a great passer, this is a spread run oriented offense and there is a very real possibility his stats will not improve next year due to circumstances Ace has nothing to do with. You don't think he knows that?
Besides, he has something much more meaningful to show scouts than trumped up stats against bad teams. He has great film and highlights to show against some of the best competition in the country. He has proven he can play at the highest college level. He should capitalize on that if he has the opportunity imo.
If spurrier can throw it, he will. If shaw won't let it go he will sit going forward. putting up stats in best conference in country will help him, but not a ton.
But honestly if he goes, he goes, and it would be defendable, but it isn't a no brainer, IMO. Up to him ultimately. I understand either way.
He could have a Steve Smith like career w/o the drama. He was primarily a return guy until 03' when he broke out in that Rams OT playoff win.
He can come back and get his degree on the universities dime if he wants after a pro career, successful or not. It's a newer NCAA bylaw I believe. The days of get your degree first to fall back on are sadly gone.
Does USC pay for kids who leave early to come back for free? That would be a good story for someone to write on, I had not heard that.
Look, he can do what he wants and I won't blame him. I'm on board with early entry if that is what he wants to do, but I think there are reasons for him to come back if he is looking for any. If not, wish him the best.
I was told Ace received a 3rd round grade from the advisory board. If this is the case, I don't know what he gains by coming back.
I don't see a 5'9 receiver going higher than 3rd round, and its been stated how depleted this draft is. I think if you're Ace, you've got to go.
School is paid for whenever you want to come back. Lets say worst case he falls on his face after 2-3 years and only makes $750k-1MM. How many years did it take you to make a million? Quite a head start at life if he's smart.
Wow, third Round. If true, I'll help him pack if that is what he wants to do.
I'm no Mel Kiper/Todd McShay, that was just what I was told.
Kind of hard to believe, but just checked a few minutes ago and they have him as the #10 wideout. Who knows.
I agree that he cannot do much better in the draft than that next year, but I think he really needs to consider what he would have to do to have a long NFL career and really be certain, after talking to whatever coaches, former players, etc. he trusts, that he has done everything possible to prepare himself. If he has, then he should go because he is not getting any taller next year. However, if he gets feedback that he needs to work on some correctable part of his game, then I really think he should come back. It is very hard for a receiver as short as Ace to stick, so he needs to think long term vs. the short term gain of 3rd round vs. 4th round.
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