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Connor, while I'm sure he is a great person, is not the quarterback we need. He doesn't strike fear in any secondary as a passing threat. I feel like the only receivers he hits are wide open on a busted coverage. He is simply an extension of the running game. While Dylan Thompson has certainly not played in as many games as Connor, I think he deserves a legitimate chance to be the guy here. Teams are going to continue to sell out against the run and force us to throw the ball. I think we are up the creek if we keep Shaw in there at this point. As awful as this sounds, I think the only difference between Connor Shaw and Chris Smelley is that Shaw has a first round draft pick lining up behind him at RB. I hate it for guys like Lattimore and Clowney that this is the best we can offer them.
How did you feel after the UGA game.
I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I am all out of bubble gum.
Yeah horrible post broshon, the missouri game too
Forever To Thee
I thought Shaw would be a better passer this year against the better teams on our schedule. Maybe his injury is still affecting his passing.
Spurrier...I appreciate him plenty
C'mon now. Dylan missed SEVERAL targets yesterday
I felt like the defense played incredible,that he hit wide open receivers, and got lucky on two underthrown balls. We threw for like 150 that night. Not intimidating to say the least.
The injury is still affecting his throws. It's obvious to me. Compare his throwing motion pre-injury to how he has thrown the ball after his injury. He doesn't have the range of motion in his arm like he did last year. He has to compensate his lack of motion with using his entire body to throw the ball. It's depressing really. Because I think he'll be like this the rest of the year and who knows how much longer.
Hate to b wishy washy...but my answer is somewhere in the middle. Shaw offers a lot vs a decent to poor DL...but we need to b in the I vs a good to great DL....ie Thompson. Personally, I think we should stsy in the I either way. Tired of the EXPERIMENTING...stick with what u do best...the I...with either QB
Dylan is not better than connor shaw, period end of discussion. That said neither played at a high level yesterday and other than the missouri game, connor has been average at best. Facts are our qbs are a problem especially on the road. Connor just isn't or won't see the field and dylan will throw it usually but he is the exact opposite of shaw in that he holds it way to long and takes sacks that should be throw aways.
With all due respect...re~read your answer...it confirms my post!!
Please let me know when to stop so that you don't hurt yourself getting off the bandwagon.
What? Bandwagon?? Im new at posting, but are u referring to me? First, Im referring to the OPs post and am positive as I believe Shaw and Thompson have their own strengths, neither is a complete QB. Bandwagon, not sure where u get that? Been a Gamecock since 83, All America in another sport. U?
2010, 2011 baseball national champions.
Do u knuckleheads read the actual posts? Just asking. Trying to have intellectual posts with thoughtful Gamecock fans and instead get a couple of leftfield responses from some lower IQ "fans"
Dude, I think they're talking to the OP
Not referring to you crowcock so you can calm down and yes I did play at Carolina as well in another sport but I was far from an all american.
It was only a matter of time before people were calling for Shaw's position, saying he's not SEC caliber, saying we don't have the talent to compete, yadda yadda.
I do think we need to play out of the I more. But as far as this BS that Shaw is terrible, there is precedent here. Since arriving on campus in 97 the best QB is and always will be the next QB. What I really wanted to ask to the OP was if he would rather have mustard or ketchup when he eats his own.
Shaw is the best QB Carolina has had probably in 20 years and don't tell me "that doesn't say much". We were 11-2 last year. We will be 11-2 this year. Some people even said 8-4 would be great given our schedule before the season.
The problem with success is that a whole lot of people don't know how to handle it and it becomes entitlement. That is where we are right now. Because of 2 losses to teams that we are just as good as (and are in the top 6) we faulted on the road.
I just read somewhere that "So what we only win at home" Yeah. So let's win at home. let's cheer for this team and lets go get 11.
Thanks...wasnt sure...rookie poster on the learning curve. Apologies if misunderstood, if not towards OP, although OP isnt too far off IMO, just think our QB's have obvious strengths n weaknesses.
Thanks fleurdi...im with u, although think B. Mitchell may still b the best pure QB in the past 20 yrs. Thanks, Im cool n collected!
8 years with Spurrier and we still have no quarterback!
Connor had returned from his injury when he went nearly two games without an incomplete pass. If he's still not 100%, that's not what is causing his problems. Against teams like LSU and Florida, who clearly have a couple of the elite defenses in the country, he has reverted back to a run first mentality, and I believe it's because of the speed of the defense and the amount of pressure he's been under. The O-Line has not been great, but they haven't been awful either. They just aren't as good as the defensive players they've gone against the last two weeks.
I truly believe we'll see him go back to his successful ways this week against Tennessee, who is not a terrible team, but isn't in the same universe as LSU or Florida.
First off, Shaw is not the best quarterback in the last 20 years. I would put Tanneyhill, Petty, and maybe even Blake ahead of him. He has been the quarterback of the best teams we have had in the past twenty years. Those teams were built around an unbelievable defense and the running game. The quarterback has had the luxury of not having to win a game with his arm. Our biggest wins the last two years were in games where the score was low and the we have run the ball 30-40 times. Perhaps I was a little harsh in my original post. Our inablitity to have a vertical passing game has allowed defenses to sell out against the run and neutralize our offense's success. When you have defenses sending 7-8 guys every down and can't find the open men in time, it makes for a very long day. I don't think shaw needs to complete 25 passes and throw for 300 yards to be considered a good quarterback. I do think that he needs to be able to find the guys in single coverage though in order to keep defenses honest. While Dylan has a penchant to hold on to the ball too long and take a sack, I think he has the ability to be a great passer. I think alot of our fans are torn because he has been undercenter for wins against Florida, Tennesse, Clemson, Nebraska, and Georgia. With the exception of the Clemson game, those games were won by our defense and success in the running game. I know yesterday's loss doesn't fall solely on his shoulders, but his ineffectiveness allowed it to turn into a blow out. Here's to hoping I am eating crow after watching us win our 11th in January.
Tanneyhill is the only one close in this and if you line up side by side their stats at this point it is a no brainer Shaw is better. You can also use the excuse of the defense bailing him out, that has been used before too.
It was a team loss. I would go as far as to say it was the staff (minus whammy) that lost this game.
Also, don't act like Blake Mitchell could come in here and light it up. He wouldn't. What Dylan has going for him is the loft he has on the ball deep. We need to run more slants for Shaw, that is what he throws well. He throws a flat deep ball yet we kept sending our guys on go routes.
I'd take Blake Mitchell, Syvelle Newton, Anthony Wright and Steve Tanneyhill over Shaw. I'd take pre-2011 Stephen Garcia over Shaw.
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