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Obviously I don't know how much of what is coming out of his camp is just posturing, and how much is legit. However, this is the type of situation that can cause major damage to the reputation and success of the program. I really don't care if the kid comes to Carolina or not. If he's as good as some say, then I hope he comes here and tears it up, but I don't know what his ceiling is. The bottom line is that his decision absolutely can't be spun as USC not wanting him. He's a highly ranked prospect from Spring Valley, who always seems to send their top prospects to UNC, Florida State etc. His father is obviously an outspoken member of the local media who played ball at Carolina. If Christian chooses another school, then that is perfectly fine. But if somehow the story gets presented as it appears to be spinning right now, that he's looking elsewhere because South Carolina isn't interested, then we're going to have more bad PR to fight against and try to overcome.
If we want him, outspoken dad or not, then our coaches need to make sure he and his father are keenly aware that we are interested so if and when he commits elsewhere, it's not going to look like we took him for granted or disregarded a prospect in our back yard.
Sorry, but only folks complaining are fans, why do the coaches need to do anything on this? Just to make nervous fans happy?
What the heck do we owe Miller? It's been stated he doesn't necessarily fit our scheme. And I'm sure our staff doesn't feel great about his dad airing out his grievances if his son isn't starting, etc.. Should we pursue him heavily to make his dad happy. Absurd.
Unlike past years, EVERY scholly counts for 2014...with only around 14 available for next year we can't take a chance on anyone that isn't 100% legit to our scheme or is certain great player, we cant take chances on guys or take on projects
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I agree with your about the limited schollies. So if he is Hell bent on playing lb but does fit our scheme why waste his time? I don't understand the problem with the coaches being honest with him on tjar point. Have we gone loopy as a fan base and lost our minds?? JMHO
Any of these links will tell yall the differences in body types from a 34 and 43 scheme. Feel free to read any of them to realize why Miller isnt a priority for us or any other team that doesnt run a good bit of the 34.
"People always ask me if I wish I were bigger. I tell them no. I always wanted to be a miniature badass." Dustin Pedroia
Look at his history -
used his radio position to beat up one of his sons former coaches.
used his position to regularly talk about how poor our RC is.
used his position to make false accusations about our players.
Now, look at this situation logically - Why is this even an issue? BC Corey Miller has spouted his opinion on his radio show.
To me, it makes no sense to give someone with the history he has that much access to the program. He's already questioning why the coaches aren't recruiting him harder, why they aren't dong this or that. What do you think he does when he's unhappy with Christians development, or his playing time, or how he's being used? There are other guys, very similar to Christian, that we can bring in that won't have the 'baggage' that Christian will bring.
My understanding is that CM was "invited" which probably means that he was informed of the Junior Day festivities and choose not to attend, perhaps because his "invite" was not very personal. My understanding is that the Junior Day is open to all current HS juniors who want to attend and that such "invitations-only" days may be a violation of NCAA rules.
I think pretty much everyone here misinterpreted my post, or either I did a really crappy job of expressing my opinion.
I don't care if we get the kid or not, but I am afraid he and dear old dad are going to spin the story where we come out looking bad. Our coaches have relationships with media types and guys on this and other fan sites. I hope they use them in this case. I'm just saying if we're going to pass on a guy ranked as high as #2 in the state, we don't need the only info out there to be what's coming from his blowhard father. It needs to be clear why we don't want him. Otherwise our coaches will end up looking bad and getting ripped by many fans and media members, regardless of what the real reason may be for him choosing another place to play.
I would estimate that Miller says 10 positive things for every 1 negative thing he says about the football team. Based on message board postings, anyone that has not actually listened to the show would think it was 2 hours of spit and venom against us which is just wrong.
With that being said, I have not heard his show in the last week so if he's flipped out on something I would not know. As for his son, I'm not sure why we wouldn't invite a top 100 prospect in Columbia to our junior day....especially given that he is a legacy.
The rug really tied the room together, did it not?
He does promote the program. I'm just saying that he has a history of taking personal issues to the air. Let him take those issues to the air about other programs. I think it'd be far more detrimental to the program to have him airing his personal problems with Christian and the program, than it would to let him go elsewhere and bring in a very similar player to him. He's not Clowney, he's not Lattimore, etc. He's not a guy you must take. Even if he's a future NFL guy, so was Antonio Allen. Give me a kid that's just as good without a father with a history of trying to settle his business by putting it on the air.
Junior days are not invite-only events. By rule they are open to all. Should we be led to believe the millers were unaware of the event?
Are you sure about that? If 3000 juniors show up, they would just roll with it? I have no idea how it works, but I suspect its a little more thought out and organized than "open to all" and I'm sure they let guys that they want to be there know about the event, when it is, where it is, etc. which constitutes an invite in my eyes.
Regardless, my words were based on what's being reported, but again I admittedly have no idea how it works.
I hear ya. I just didn't want those that have not listened to get the wrong idea.
I don't think the staff is sold on Christian fitting the system and I also think they feel Corey would be baggage. JMO.
Based on the quality we have recruited and team chemistry we have been able to create, I think our coaches should be trusted as to how they handle his recruitment. Have coaches screwed up in the past? Sure, but I think it is to our advantage at the end of the day when primadonnas who think they aren't getting enough attention go elsewhere.
Also, if we were bringing in 30, we might be recruiting less selectively. This will probably be the most talented class we have ever pulled on paper based on the low number of schollies, talented instate recruiting pool, and success of the program. We have certainly reached the point where ONE recruit doesn't make a difference, unless maybe we are talking about Clowney . . . or Clowney.
They aren't invite only, but they tell the prospects they want to come with a lot of time in advance, then they release the date to the public on short notice to avoid hordes of people they don't want to come.
If they told the general public the date with enough time for kids and families to prepare, there would have been a lot more than 40 who showed up.
This post was edited by Roisin Dubh 14 months ago
I'm not worried about what this loud mouthed guy with a mic says about our program. He has done nothing for this university (it'd be different if it was Roger's son, Latti's son, etc.). He's gonna trash us regardless because that's who he is. We should address our needs with NO regard to what he says. I think his influence is probably more limited than you indicate here.
So is Christian miller too slow for to play olb?
And if so, can he not get big enough to play MLB?
How does a guy who is only a fit for one spot on a 3-4 defense get so highly rated?
Someone lay out what Botkin is looking for in lb?
This is going to be the trending topic of 2013, to the point of nausea.
Corey is a USC Alum, an NFL Alum and his son is a highly rated prospect in the state of South Carolina. "Winning the state first" has been our motto here since Spurrier has arrived which leaves folks with a platform, both Micro (On here) and Macro (Corey's show) wondering why he isn't a priority. Here are probably a couple of reasons why this is going down the way it is.
1. Stop talking about a kids parent and what agenda they are pushing. It's not fair regardless of what kind of exposure that Corey has. It is not fair to Christian. That's his dad.
2. Stop talking about "fitting schemes" It isn't for us to decide body type or anything else.. Corey and Melvin Ingram grew immensely after they arrived on campus. Christian could get to 6'5 255. That is what Willie McGinnist played at at OLB in the 3/4 and what John Abraham is playing at now in a DE role in Atlanta.
The easy and most made up phrase here is "Trust the coaches." The Millers were probably trusting the coaches when Brad Lawing was here a couple of months ago. That the same guy who developed the elder Miller could develop the younger.
Trust the coaches that they won't put the University and program in a negative position. We don't talk bad about anyone else and we ignore anyone who comes after us. When was the last time that Spurrier didn't send a warranted zinger across the bow of someone who chirped too loudly in the wrong tone toward us? Trust them to do the best thing for the University.
Trust them to be honest with the players and families. We probably do want Christian, and we probably want him as a hand on the ground player and have given examples of both 3/4 and 4/3 successes coming from the same positions. It is up to us to be honest about how we are going to use them. I love this staff because there are no promises. Just the expectation of hard work from both sides. I think Christian might be more of a priority, be more open to playing with his hand down and his dad would be less vocal.
Ignore the cackling. You know how to make something silly irrelevant? Ignore it. If some dog is barking, turn your back to it. Let it keep blowing hot air. Don't acknowledge it. What I like about this staff is that they ignore BS and when it pops up they turn their back to it. We could learn a lesson from that.
Corey Miller "has done nothing for this University" ? Curious as to how long you have followed Carolina football.
This post was edited by collegejoe 14 months ago
Seriously, you are way off base.
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