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I just hope the fans here will keep in mind that these kids who are wavering, or have been considering USC, are from distant places. They are considering schools who are, in most cases, much closer to home. I am not downplaying the effects of a bad finish to this recruiting year. We need to finish strong. We have some glaring weaknesses in certain areas that need to be addressed. We appear to lack a couple of real closers on the recruiting trail. However, we have put together a very good class regardless of the next week. It's not as good as we hoped, and it lags behind several of our rivals, but it's a good class nevertheless and will help us win games in the future. Hopefully this board can avoid meltdown status regardless of the decisions made by these final few recruits.
I agree, for the most part. We are recruiting this year the same as we have just about every year that Spurrier has been here. Some people think it's not good enough. I say that the formula they have has had our program going up every year he has been here. The formula has our program on a steady ascent, and is now a national power. I am ecstatic with where our program is.
No matter what these last few kids do, we have a class full of darn good football players. A month ago, we were saying that a great finish would be to close out with Rodgers, Williams, and one other. The coaches tried to make room for a couple more, who may, or may not come, and if they don't, some will see it as a 'bad finish'. It's funny, because a month ago, we were saying Rodgers and Williams, and maybe Yannick would be a dream finish.
We did close out with Rodgers and Williams. We'll likely get 1 more.
Ally will beat the crap out of Uga.
I agree that a meltdown should not happen. I do think that the guys on this site that attend the press conference need to ask questions about a number of things that are expressed by the membership on here.
Those questions should include, closing the deal, recruiting to needs (with a back up plan), how are the new guys (Botkin and Brown) doing in recruiting, etc.
And very important, what is our plan going forward with the recent NCAA changes in recruiting. I know the answers will not be specific and they should not be specific. However, they should acknowledge they are aware and are taking measures to take advantage of the relaxation of the rules.
I see it like this... We NEED Moore. Everyone else is a plus.
You can't see! I can't see! All that matters is can the f*&%ing horse see! That's a raid!
Are you saying that Whittle needs to ask Spurrier these questions? How dumb do you think the coaches are? Of course they recruit to needs, have a plan, a backup plan, and so forth. They are also aware of the rules, and any changes that are being made to them. You can imagine what kind of answer you would get to those questions, there is no logical reason to ask them.
Never would have these conversations if a kid with a blown out knee wouldn't have changed programs. I don't get how losing Rolin ruined the entire class. Doesn't even sound like he was slated for LB.
As I look at the commitment list of those schools ahead of us in the rankings I see a good many kids from distant places. I see some on our own list of commitments.
Spurrier...I appreciate him plenty
Yes, I can well imagine the kind of answer one would get if he asked Spurrier those questions. It would be a non-answer answer.
I just want to know what it is Ole Miss is selling. They're in on something like five 5-star guys. They're probably going to land 2-3 of them to go along with what they already have.
Do they have hills there?
That's correct, often players come from distant places to play ball at a particular school. Others choose to remain close to home. My point, which I'm sure you understood if you were being honest, is that fans shouldn't rip our coaches a new one because we failed to land a kid from 1000 miles away. It's different when you lose kids from your own back yard. If the kids from Bamberg and Goose Creek go elsewhere, then criticism is more valid.
I didn't see anyone ripping our coaches a new one. Some posters expressed disappointment that we were unable to best USF for a recruit. That's not an unreasonable sentiment.
So you're saying we should ask a question the coaches cannot really answer to give the staff a chance to prove they understand the rules of their profession as well as a fan sitting at home?
You would make a great sideline reporter.
"They've just discovered a new use for sheep over there at Clemson... wool." - Lewis Grizzard
I think that we slow-played Senat, hoping for Bryant, along with providing Deke Adams an opportunity to evaluate film. I think that "hurt" us with Senat who choose to play more locally too, which will allow his family to see him more. New coaching staff at USF provides some excitement plus ample opportunities for early PT which he would not have gotten at The USC. He was very likely to be a RS next year. We have depth at DT and excellent 2014 prospects, and hopefully we get Bryant.
Those are questions which...
1) shouldn't be directed to Spurrier, Sr. He wouldn't know the answers, IMO
2) should be asked privately and the answers should be attributed to anonymous sources
5 in a row
One of their recruits, LaQuan Treadwell put this up on instagram follwing an Ole Miss visit. Pretty sure I know how Ole Miss is rolling these days. Makes ZERO sense the number of big time players they're in on. I don't care how hard your coaches work or how hard they try, it makes no sense.
You are on a roll. It is not an unreasonable sentiment because USC > USF on and off the field. However, you spend quite a bit of time on this board, so if you really haven't seen anyone ripping our coaches, I have serious doubts about either your eyesight or reading comprehension.
My point is that losing a Florida kid to a Florida school, a DC kid to Maryland, or an Alabama kid to Auburn are things that might happen, and would be considered quite likely in many cases. However, we have some fans who would say that if those things happen, it's because of a failure by our coaching staff. Meanwhile, they expect all South Carolina kids to stay in state to play. We can wish to have it both ways, but it's unreasonable to expect it.
It's not a failure in my mind to lose kids in the scenario you describe but it just doesn't seem we had a good plan in place to close out this recruiting cycle. There was too much scrambling at the end trying to find bodies and so far it hasn't worked well at all.
Not as good as could have been and not nearly as bad as some would have you to believe.
Get Moore and hopefully Bryant or Yannick and I am ok with it.
If we don't get anyone else, my only hope is that USCGUYBEATY will come out of the woodwork on signing day to help ease some of the tension around here. LOL
Translation: I really have no idea if they had a plan or not, but I was confused as heck, so I make an assumption that they were. I wish they would call me and let me know whats going on.
point well taken regarding distance factor.
Williams and Rodgers however say hello.
We still need to close out with two more IMO
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