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I believe USC has wrestling as a club sport. While collegiate wrestling is not very popular in the South when stacked up against football, basketball, and baseball, there are a lot of good high school programs in state. There is an article in todays paper, www.thestate.com, about Jason Valek, the coach of the Newberry Indians, which is a sensational success story. If USC could hire Valek (who admittedly is a Clemson grad) to duplicate such success on a bigger stage, we could add another potential national championship or two to the trophy case. The Colonial Center may be too large a venue (Carver Hawkeye in Iowa, and the arena at Iowa State are two of the only places that truly pack out for meets), but the Carolina Coliseum could potentially host events. I think this guy Valek is a winner. I used to wrestle, and it is a great sport. Any thoughts?
I would love to see us get a wrestling team it is a great sport. The coliseum would be just fine. The University of Maryland used Cole Field House (their old basketball stadium) for their wrestling team and it was a great experience. I went and watched the ACC tournament there a few times growing up. I would assume the coliseum would be a similar feel.
I would much rather have a wrastlin team-it's much more entertaining!
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I could be wrong, but the reason a lot of schools do not have a wrestling team is directly related to Title IX.
Female athletes have to be given a comparable number of scholarships to their male counterparts.
With football giving away so many scholarships, sports like men's wrestling became one of the losers in this equation.
While I would love to see a wrestling team, I am also glad that my daughter and her future daughters have the same opportunities as my son does.
Love wrestling but not a chance. Number one by far if Title IX. Number two is that high school wrestling in this area of the country is far inferior to the midwest and ne. In those places they pack places like the colonial center for state championships. I would say it's similar to hockey in that respect. If southern schools add a sport I think it should be lacrosse which is getting huge especially in metro areas like Atlanta.
This post was edited by BroshonJeffrey 2 years ago
That's why Clempson cut their program a few years ago.
Only if we leave the SEC for the WWE.
If USC entertains another sport it will probably be Lacrosse for both men and women.
Good point. That's probably the number one reason. We would do away with another mens sport to have a team if it were half as popular here has it is in the n/nw. I remember guys in highschool that won won multiple state championships going to tournaments up north and losing their first 2 matches. If they did well they might win 1 or 2 but I don't every remember them coming close to winning. These were guys that clowned people in our state championships and tech pinned people for fun. Those guys start when they're in preschool up there and spend 3/4 of the year in the gym due to weather.
This, and its not even a comparison. SC HS state champs wouldn't make a HS team in the midwest for the most part. Those kids start learning when they are 6, in SC you don't even have a chance to start until middle school if your lucky enough to have it offered in your area.
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i really don't like Title IX.
I love the idea, but the practicality is dumb. JMNSHO FWIW.
Maybe if i have a daughter I will appreciate it, until then, i don't like Tit9
College wrestling is quickly becoming the minor leagues for the UFC. I have no point, just a thought.
This post was edited by CharacterZero 2 years ago
You are right, as wrestling is a strong base for MMA. I would love for USC to get a team. Lots of fighters rep their schools (like Ryan Bader at Arizona St) when they get to the UFC (and to a smaller degree, strikeforce)
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In general, wrestling here is not as popular, and maybe not as quality. I went to school with Valek, and Derek Strobel, the coach at lexington was one of my best friends. I started messing around with wrestling late in high school, and continued with it when I could, and now do Braz Jiu Jitzu. Both are wonderful martial arts(yes, wrestling is a martial art, even if you don't wear a gi). would be great for our football program, I know that.
If I was the football coach, I would recruit wrestlers however I could, and get them to teach, and do weekend tournaments with my team. think about it, takedowns will help all defenders and special teamers. Takedown defense would help running backs, and all skill positions. Offensive and defensive linemen would be required to do Greco-Roman, which is wrestling with no attacks below the waist.
As far as quality wrestling down south, NC State has had some national champions recently. Irmo has a guy that just pinned his way through junior nationals, which is absolutely no joke. He has not given up a takedown in two yrs. There are some quality wrestlers down here, its just most of your best athletes play other sports. All of the Paulk brothers are good wrestlers, Rodney is very good. Title 9 screwed wrestling, and is exactly why klimpson had to cut their program. All I know is that if the Big 10 can do it, so can the SEC. The SEC already does not have men's soccer, which is dumb. I am all for equality, so the answer is have a women's wrestling team. A lot of the smaller schools in MN do it, I know that, cannot speak for other states other than SC.
Ally will beat the crap out of Uga.
Dan Henderson went to Arz St too. A state has a lot of MMA fighters.
So does Ok st for that matter: Randy was a two time national runner up there.
This post was edited by steve miller 2 years ago
I disagree. We shouldn't have to sacrifice sports to accommodate another based on gender. I don't know the answer and agree the women should have schollies in thier respective sports. But title IX blows.
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Yeah, Tim Dudley is the guy you're thinking of. Three time state champ and like you said, I don't think he has given up a takedown in two years which is pretty incredible. I think he will do really well at nationals.
Robert Quinn was also a tremendous wrestler. Undefeated his last three years. Missed almost his entire senior season with the brain tumor. I remember he needed 5 wins to qualify for the state tournament. Came back with 5 matches to go, and pinned his first opponent (who was number 1 in state at the time) in his first match back. Won out and won state that year.
us attempting to join collegiate wrestling is like us trying to join collegiate hockey.
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Not saying there aren't good wrestlers in the south but three talent level isn't even close to the midwest and why would we add another non revenue sport? Fwiw I am a wrestling fan but think it's silly to consider it when midwestern schools are cutting their programs.
only if it is a hot female wrestling team. bikinis prefered & mud wrestling even better.
i know, only a dream....but so is a male wrestling at carolina
I think that, because of the popularity of MMA, that wrestling is going to get more and more popular down here and everywhere. I think that we may be forced to form a team at some point in the future. I don't know this though. All I know is that there are more and more people entering grappling tournaments, there were five people in my division at one two yrs ago, now there are 50+ in some tournaments I have been in.
According to my old roommate who wrestled at a big time midwestern high school you are wrong. If this was remotely true why are high schools in that area having problems filling rosters and universities cutting programs? I would also add that there isn't a program in the country that makes money so what is the incentive to add a team? Beyond thatcollege wrestling is boring as hell to watch because they don't call stalling.
You have a point. I know another guy from high school. Undefeated state champ, lost two of his first three matches at nationals and got bounced.
This Dudley guy is legit. He is an elite midwestern caliber guy.
For what its worth I had a friend in my dorm freshman year from Wisconsin I think who was 5A state champ. He's on the Club wrestling team at USC. Always wondered why he never wrestled in college.
Its not the talent level here, its the commitment level. Most of the really talented guys I wrestled with did it to keep in shape for football. Came out after football season and as soon as wrestling season was over switched back to summer football work out programs. There are some great wrestlers in the state like others have mention that dedicate themselves to it, but they don't get to hone their skills against other top athletes who do the same. Those guys in the midwest wrestle in the back yard for fun like we do football and baseball. Even the ones not on the wrestling teams still have a good grasp of the sport. Like playing a pick up game of soccer in Mexico, Brazil, Italy etc...
This post was edited by DT USC 2 years ago
We can have a wrestling team, we can satisfy the Title IX rules and we can increase the athletic department revenues significantly by having a (drum roll please).....a nude women's wrestling team!! That's it!! Only cute shapely women, no fatties or uglies.
Ummm hijacking my friends account for a second but I'm from Wisconsin, wrestled at a big time program, and thats all bs. We are better because of the youth programs that kids are put in at a young age. The reason most people don't wrestle if because in order to be great weight loss is a 24/7 issue that you can't leave at practice. But trust me when I say that I learned how to wrestle on a mat not in my backyard. Also most of the members my team were football players and we all were dedicated to those workouts in the offseason so that argument doen't gios water either.
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