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asked my buddies this today and was wondering what TBS thinks so far of his play.
True love is hard to find, sometimes you think you have true love and then you catch the early flight home from San Diego ....
Home - A+
Away - C
I can't give you just one ranking because he literally looks like a different player on the road. I guess you could average them together and get a B or B+, but that doesn't tell the whole story IMO.
Buddy of mine said this below but is too scared to post afraid he will be ripped to shreds by others but I agree with what he said here.......
Not sure he has the ability to play any better than he did down the stretch last year. That's not his fault but he is simply not an elite QB. He is an above average college QB that has some talents in a specific system that he runs, for the most part, pretty well. More disappointing than anything is in 8 years we have not been able to get a top tier QB. He is the best we have today for who we are.
Yeah winning sucks, I'm disappointed too.
In his defense he did text this to me....
13-3 as a starter
The guy clearly stinks.
Don't think the OP said to rate winning or the record.
Overall I would prob give Shaw a B-
B. Thing is, he will improve next season.
At least a solid B, and if you're not enamored by gaudy stats, you could give him an A. He's not a prototype drop back passer, but he throws a pretty accurate, catchable ball. He isn't a huge guy, but he runs the ball hard. He's not an NFL quarterback, but then again, neither were Todd Ellis, Steve Taneyhill, Blake Mitchell, and Phil Petty, who are probably the best QBs we've had in the last 25 years. Of course, A-1 ended up being an NFL quarterback, and most of us wouldn't have thought that was going to happen. I'd take Shaw in a second over Anthony Wright. You never knew what was going to happen when he had the ball in his hands.
I can't believe I just gave Pat Bateman an upvote. I feel dirty.....
You'd give Jesus a B. Heck you'd complian that he had holes in his hands, so he struggles with the deep ball.
As I pointed out in a thread a few weeks ago after the Florida game, those wins especially Georgia this year, Tenn (2011), Florida (2011), Clemson (2011), and Nebraska, the defense held the opposing offense to two scores or less. That means that coupled with the running game and a few turnovers in opposing territory, Shaw didn't have to do much. The Clemson game last year he threw two td's to Alshon and Buster. The Nebraska game he had the hail mary Alshon got to the endzone with. I wouldn't say that he won us those games. He just didn't f*** up. I would compare him to a Trent Dilfer back in 2000 with the Ravens. Strong running game, nasty defense, little responsibility on the qb's shoulder when the machine is running correctly.
At home; A
On the road; D-
I would give him a solid B+. Shaw has only really played a year in a half. So for not being an elite QB (smirk) he has been really good. The next step is winning on the road and being the head of a complete passing game. The passing ( or offense) side of the team as a whole has not clicked in every game like we all would like . I think next year will be the best year for him and he will be compared to the great USC QBs of all time in every way.
I hear what your buddy is saying, but I think last year happened, at least to some extent, because teams didn't really think he was capable of running the way he did. He didn't scare anybody then. Now, some coordinators think you need to stop Shaw from running before even worrying about our RBs.
I think if the Shaw we saw against UT keeps showing up, we will be fine. He let some passes fly that he wouldn't have thrown earlier in the year. Doing so is a good thing because it puts pressure on the D, but there will also be turnovers.
With Shaw, it's a risk vs. reward right now. We can ask him to be conservative, run often, not turn the ball over or we can ask him to throw down the field more, run less, and take more chances. Throwing more will result in more TOs, that's just the way it is, but it's also something that SOS (and I) can live with if it results in a passing offense that puts pressure on a defense.
I don't think Shaw has peaked as a QB, but I do think he has peaked as a running QB. He can still improve as a passer, and that is where any improvement he may make will come. I think he will improve.
You may run like Hayes, but you hit like $*!#
Do you think a B- is a woefully inadequate grade for Shaw's career as a QB here?
This post was edited by BCMCock05 17 months ago
Solid B - true leader, tough as nails, has athletic tools beyond just an ARM, does the right things on and off the field
Can't argue with a winner! 3 losses on the road to top 10 opponents... hasn't blinked.
This post was edited by CockoftheRoost 17 months ago
No just commenting that your a tough grader and always have been, not a slam, just what I've observed.
What would you give him?
B. the difference between conor and the other quarterbacks we've had is that Conor wants to get better and puts in the time and work to be better. He improved at staying in the pocket more this year rather than take off after his first read wasn't there. Look for him to keep improving
Spurrier...I appreciate him plenty
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