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DT Recruiting

  • If we lose both Hill and Griffin our defensive line will take a hit unless we sign 3 really great one's next year.

    This post was edited by GamecockWorld on 7/3/2012 at 12:45 PM

    GamecockWorld

  • BCMCock05 said...

    Clemson has 27 players listed on their roster on the OL and DL.

    Are they deep there?

    Ill take my chances with a sophomore in Quarles, redshirt freshman in Dixon, Greene, Dukes and junior Surratt. And Ill take my chances that this is the first of July. NOT EVEN HALF WAY THROUGH THIS RECRUITING CYCLE, and we have Hood coming in from Prep next year. So we have five bodies, three of which I think are above average SEC players. Thats not counting any of the DEs who could grow into tackles, or OLs that may move over. We don't need a JUCO, and I think we add one more in this class at the very least. So yes, we are deep.

    FYI, using Clemson as a comparison is retarded. We are much deeper than they are. The total number of players on a roster means dick, I agree. It is the quality number of players you have. Our guys are better than Clemson's.

    And lastly, you act as if either one of the recruits who we thought we were going to get were locks. I though Dukes was a lock too, and he may yet be a contributor, but I dont think saying if we get hill or Griffin that either one or both will be starters from day one. Recruiting is important, and DT is NOT a priority in this class. You need four to five bodies for a season, and we already have that many TODAY for the 2013 season. So yes, your assertion is asinine, an your comparison to Clemson is about the dumbest most pointless comparison I've seen in a while.

    MrNiceGuy

  • GamecockWorld said...

    If we lose both Hill and Griffin our defensive line will take a hit unless we sign 3 really great one's next year.

    What if we sign a sleeper this year that ends up being a pro bowl player? You cant see the future. Its not a good thing that we didnt get on of the two kids. However, its also not over yet. And who knows who else we may get in on.

    MrNiceGuy

  • Mr.NiceGuy said...

    What if we sign a sleeper this year that ends up being a pro bowl player? You cant see the future. Its not a good thing that we didnt get on of the two kids. However, its also not over yet. And who knows who else we may get in on.

    If we had a history of this it would make me feel better, not saying it couldn't happen, but ....

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  • Scurvydog74 said...

    Hopefully if we can get Griffin to our showcase, we can change his mind.

    He hasn't made up his mind yet. We're behind UGA at the moment but we have a chance at present.

    Spurrier...I appreciate him plenty

    MrBigAl

  • rmctacdmc said...

    If we had a history of this it would make me feel better, not saying it couldn't happen, but ....

    I understand your point. Let me be clear. Its not a good thing that we havent already landed one of these two guys. However, the sky is not falling. People need to stop freaking out. We are not even half way through this recruiting cycle yet. I will say this, I think the odds are greater that we sign a contributor in this class not named Hill or Griffin, than they are that we dont sign anyone, or sign a bust. If my prediction is true, then all of this talk is for naught. Its July, not January.

    MrNiceGuy

  • Mr.NiceGuy said...

    People need to stop freaking out.

    You're the only one freaking out man.

    Can we please stop pretending that all recruits are created equal?

    Of course we "can't predict the future." And yes we could sign a sleeper (or already have one on the roster) who becomes an All-American or the like.

    That doesn't undercut the fact that if we don't sign Griffin our DT recruiting this year will likely go down as a bust.

    Please appreciate that saying that is NOT saying that we aren't having a great recruiting year. As I think we are well on our way to another excellent, Top-15 recruiting class.

    IMO DL and OL are a priority every year. And if we miss on a big time recruit (especially an instate one like Hill) its a big deal.

    Its not that end of the world. And it doesn't mean the coaches are necessarily doing anything wrong. Stuff happens.

    Bom274

  • Bom274 said...

    You're the only one freaking out man.

    Can we please stop pretending that all recruits are created equal?

    Of course we "can't predict the future." And yes we could sign a sleeper (or already have one on the roster) who becomes an All-American or the like.

    That doesn't undercut the fact that if we don't sign Griffin our DT recruiting this year will likely go down as a bust.

    Please appreciate that saying that is NOT saying that we aren't having a great recruiting year. As I think we are well on our way to another excellent, Top-15 recruiting class.

    IMO DL and OL are a priority every year. And if we miss on a big time recruit (especially an instate one like Hill) its a big deal.

    Its not that end of the world. And it doesn't mean the coaches are necessarily doing anything wrong. Stuff happens.

    I fail to see how I am freaking out. If anything I am annoyed at the ignorance of those posting in this thread essentially stating that since we didnt get on of these two, that we are going to not sign a DT or sign a bad DT class. I could not disagree more with that. This year DT is not a priority in my opinion. We already have Hood coming in, and really one more body fills the need there. I would like to have one of the two out of Hill or Griffin, and that is still very much a possibility. Someone can correct me if I am wrong but 2013 is another down year in state. 2014 is the year we really need to be focused on in state.

    I fail to see how all recruits are created equally or how you got that impression from me. Simply put, one or both of Hill and Griffin could end up being busts. What then would you have to say? For me its simple, stop bitching about a non issue in July. If this were January, I could see reason for complaints. I think some of you need to take up golf. That way you can at least have some fun while looking like an idiot.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MrNiceGuy on 7/3/2012 at 1:55 PM

    MrNiceGuy

  • Mr.NiceGuy said...

    Ill take my chances with a sophomore in Quarles, redshirt freshman in Dixon, Greene, Dukes and junior Surratt. And Ill take my chances that this is the first of July. NOT EVEN HALF WAY THROUGH THIS RECRUITING CYCLE, and we have Hood coming in from Prep next year. So we have five bodies, three of which I think are above average SEC players. Thats not counting any of the DEs who could grow into tackles, or OLs that may move over. We don't need a JUCO, and I think we add one more in this class at the very least. So yes, we are deep.

    FYI, using Clemson as a comparison is retarded. We are much deeper than they are. The total number of players on a roster means dick, I agree. It is the quality number of players you have. Our guys are better than Clemson's.

    And lastly, you act as if either one of the recruits who we thought we were going to get were locks. I though Dukes was a lock too, and he may yet be a contributor, but I dont think saying if we get hill or Griffin that either one or both will be starters from day one. Recruiting is important, and DT is NOT a priority in this class. You need four to five bodies for a season, and we already have that many TODAY for the 2013 season. So yes, your assertion is asinine, an your comparison to Clemson is about the dumbest most pointless comparison I've seen in a while.

    That's a lot of words to say you're mad.

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  • BCMCock05 said...

    That's a lot of words to say you're mad.

    Ha not mad. Annoyed by your lack of logic? yeah.

    MrNiceGuy

  • BCMCock05 said...

    That's a lot of words to say you're mad.

    And few enough words by you for me to tell you don't have anything to say back.

    MrNiceGuy

  • Mr.NiceGuy said...

    I understand your point. Let me be clear. Its not a good thing that we havent already landed one of these two guys. However, the sky is not falling. People need to stop freaking out. We are not even half way through this recruiting cycle yet. I will say this, I think the odds are greater that we sign a contributor in this class not named Hill or Griffin, than they are that we dont sign anyone, or sign a bust. If my prediction is true, then all of this talk is for naught. Its July, not January.

    The only poster coming close to freaking out is you. Everyone else has managed to state their opinions clamly and without invective.

    Spurrier...I appreciate him plenty

    MrBigAl

  • Mr.NiceGuy said...

    Ha not mad. Annoyed by your lack of logic? yeah.

    Logic? Let's review what you have said ITT.

    You said I was dumb for saying depth isn't created by having a lot of people.

    Then you said depth isn't created by having a lot of people.

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  • In the SEC....the differance between the haves and the have nots is mostly evident at DLine...and specificly at DT. If we want to be a yearly player within the SEC....DT recruiting is going to have to get better. We have made do ..some years but it has been a weakness of ours every year.

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  • I think having only signed one last class and then only re-signing him in the next class would be a concern, albeit one that might not really be an issue until a couple years down the road.

    not ideal, but something that can be addressed to some degree before it becomes a major hole.

    VBCock

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  • BCMCock05 said...

    No.

    People being on the team does not mean you're deep.

    We do have the best DL coach in the country. We turned a DE into one of the most underrated DT's in the SEC in Travian.

    You live for when guys commit elsewhere.

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    Ally will beat the crap out of Uga.

    steve miller

  • steve miller said...

    We do have the best DL coach in the country. We turned a DE into one of the most underrated DT's in the SEC in Travian.

    Since you apparently missed what I said literally 3 posts after what you quoted, I'll provide it in the form of a picture.

    Please view carefully.

    What you said has nothing to do with what you quoted anyway.

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  • steve miller said...

    We do have the best DL coach in the country. We turned a DE into one of the most underrated DT's in the SEC in Travian.

    You live for when guys commit elsewhere.

    Point 1: Therefore the logical extension of your perspective is that it doesn't matter who we sign our DLine is destined for greatness?

    Point 2: Therefore he isn't actually a true Gamecock fan?

    Cmon man. Please put down the hyperbole crack pipe a bit

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  • Its not national signing day yet .

    CaliGamecock9095

  • Cali*Gamecock said...

    Its not national signing day yet .

    Also, today is Tuesday July 3rd.

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