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You have nothing to argue with that these are not excellent athletes.
I will help you understand why we take a commitment from a player: The coaches have evaluated said player, and have determined that said player has the characteristics to play the position he is needed to play.
No matter what our record has been the last couple of years, if we just go after out of state guys with huge offer lists, we are going to lose out most of the time. This is for the same reason that we are able to get the best players in our state to sign with us. We are not Southern Cal or Notre Dame, or a school with a storied tradition that is going to make out of state prospects googly eyed when we talk to them. Take Greg Bryant, for example. He had stated that he was interested in us, yet as soon as he went to OK, he committed. We do not have that type of status, yet.
For those that cannot understand it, these out of state guys grew up watching their teams beat the ever living crap out of us. That is hard to overcome with a couple of successful years. We either have to accept that our coaches are going to locate, and find good players that are under the radar for whatever reason, and may not have an impressive offer list, or live with frustration.
We will get our share of 4* guys, but we will also get our share of less renown guys, and that is the way it is going to be for at least 5 or 6 years.
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For all you naysayers, you all do realize it is early in this year's recruiting cycle. Most of these kids have been evaluated based on their Junior seasons, and some have not been evaluated at all. Some kids don't play significant roles on their teams until their Junior and Senior seasons because of the depth of talent and experience at their positions playing in front of them.
Additionally, not every high school has the same type of exposure to the recruiting circut as the major high schools in their county, region or state. Sometimes scouts and recruiters overlook players at some of the lesser known schools, or more so, schools that don't produce consistent D1 talent. Think about how many high school football players there are compared to the amount of scouting and recruiting professionals there are, the difference is staggering.
Some of you need to learn how to think critically and objectively.
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mickey h said...
i will say this the stars dont really mean anything cause its about how you perform or transition into the next level. you have five stars player that are sitting the bench or getting the big head and going pro after one starting season and they dont last 3 years in the nfl. but you have a bunch of 2, 3, 4 star players end up being stars in college and the NFL. wasnt melvin ingram a 3 star player?
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Melvin was a 4*. But, Devin Taylor was a 3, along with Norwood, Connor Shaw, Antonio Allen, DJ Swearinger, and most of our core players. We have also had quite a bit of success with 4* guys. We get elite players, and build a solid team around those guys.
The fact of the matter is our coaches have no idea, nor do they care what recruiting sights rank the guys they recruit. I mean that with all due respect to the great staff here at TBS. They make their own evaluations based on position specific and scheme specific attributes that they see in particular athletes. We will get players that will develop into elite SEC guys, these coaches have proven that over time. Jr is still the RC, and tracks and ultimately approves who we take.
We are not going to come of of our best season ever and sign a bunch of guys that should be playing in the SoCon. We have some new coaches, but the core of Elliot, Ward, Jr, and Mangus are still the one's that the HBC puts his trust into. They have the say in who we take commits from. I would hope that the progress we have made with these coaches at the helm has convinced us to trust in the process
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Cocked&Locked said...
What makes you think that these guys are projects? Do you know them personally? Have you seen their film? Have you monitored their development? What credentials do you have to evaluate football talent? There must be some logical reason why our coaches offered some of these players that you, for whatever reason, are unwilling to accept.
Whittle already pwned you on your "wait 6 months" nonsense. What happens 6 months down the line the same recruits start gaining some serious offers from major D1 schools? Will you still be bitching about our coaches offering them then? Who knows, some of these kids may decide to commit elsewhere. Just learn to have some trust in our staff and wait until things unfold before you begin casting judgement based on speculation.
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CockOracle said...
Mistake number two - Chaz Sutton and hopefully he won't be sitting this season. But i do wish you had not brought him up because he will be used as evidence against our argument because he was rated a high 4 star and we got him after that weak Fla program dropped him.
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Whittle didn't pawn me! They should not have been offered a scholarship by us this soon. If they blow up I would be shocked because you rarely ever see a recruit go from zero stars or one star to 4 stars over 6 months.
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