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Defensive coach search takes a turn

  • uscjam said...

    I think the direction will be crystal clear following the bowl game performance.

    Jeep Hunter could run the same defense in the bowl game we have all hear. Would you want him for DC?

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  • COOTERUSC77 said...

    You just lost all credibility by bringing up his stint at Arizona. Arizona has never fielded a good team..ever. You try fielding a decent team with the talent they recruit. And he was a HC there..not a DC. Before he went there he was recognized as one of the hottest DC's in the nation. Link to Arizona's current class..how could you win successfully with this in the Pac 12?

    Didn't I allude to that point and give him credit for being a good DC? and thanks for ignoring the actual point of my post.

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  • BCMCock05 said...

    Well not purposely, no shit.

    You make me laugh..... :)

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  • rmctacdmc said...

    Well our D under EJ didn't exactly shut arky or uga down, so not sure of your point here?

    What's wrong with expecting to hire someone who could shut those teams down? Or better yet... who do you think is more likely to field a defense that will shut those teams down: A guy who has never been completely in charge of coming up with a way to stop an opposing offense or a guy who has shut down multiple teams and has fielded some of the best defenses in the entire country during his time as a DC?

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  • Kas0988 said...

    I don't think one game is nearly enough to prove whether Ward is ready to be an SEC Defensive Coordinator or not. And let's face it... Nebraska's offense doesn't exactly strike fear into anyone. Especially their passing attack. They are hardly what I would call a challenging audition for the role and quite frankly we should be able to shut them down on talent alone. That won't be the case against UGA, Arkansas, or other teams with a decent offense.

    Passing attack?

    Ward is a former DB, who has coached secondaries his entire career, and our pass defense only picked up this year when Whammy had his way and played more Man-2-Man coverage.

    If Ward knows one thing, it's secondaries.

    And I keep returning ot the fact that he had two stints under EJ and a very long run at V. Tech under Beamer. I doubt he is as "In-Over-His-Head" as some of you make it out to be...

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  • Oh crap we are actually going to put jr in charge of recuiting. We are doomed. There was a lot of pissing and moaning over that move also...How'd that turn out?

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  • Cockfather said...

    I'm sure Hyman has chimed in on saving $$$ and not making a bigtime hire. Looks like we go back to "5 loss Spurrier" and more bowl trips to Shreveport in our future.

    So much for our short lived run of major success in the SEC.

    Merry F#%@ING Christmas Gamecock Nation.

    Why has stoops been dropped from consideration after talking to each the head coach, money? Just wondering.

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  • cdthompson said...

    Not understanding some of the uproar here.

    I see nothing wrong with this be treated as an audition.

    A) You're not going to hire someone before the bowl.

    B) Continuity on the staff would be a positive on the recruiting trail.

    C) Players are familiar with Ward and, if Johnson spoke highly enough of Ward to bring him in, then there has to be SOMETHING to his ability.

    Stop looking for the big-name and look for the results...

    I agree and not only continuity on the staff, but Ward would also likely run the same scheme which we have recruited and developed for, especially with the SPUR concept.

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  • Kas0988 said...

    What's wrong with expecting to hire someone who could shut those teams down? Or better yet... who do you think is more likely to field a defense that will shut those teams down: A guy who has never been completely in charge of coming up with a way to stop an opposing offense or a guy who has shut down multiple teams and has fielded some of the best defenses in the entire country during his time as a DC?

    Don't you think Oklahoma recruiting has as much to do with their success as the position coaches? I'm sure he's good, I'm just not going to crucify SOS for giving Ward a shot, when I expect he's talked the situation through with his friend and understands where they each stand, at least better than we do.

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  • ThunderCock said...

    just because Stoops is a BIG NAME doesnt mean it will work...Look at FL with Weiss.....

    if stoops was so good, why did he get fired from a "basketball school"? fans get hung up on names to much these days, stoops has plenty of dough in the bank, hell, is big brother at OK better tighten up. if they let Okie St. beat them again, his ass might be out the door.

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  • If the defense comes out and plays shut out ball against a very good Nebraska Offense Ward deserves a shot at the job. With that said Stoops is already a proven defensive coach he was a DC for a national title team. Stoops Defense is a lot like EJ it wouldn't be a huge change if we don't promote from within he's the best choice. Ward is still unproven as a DC it would be a huge gamble to give him full control of the defense. We are finally a top program in the SEC and we have top coaches wanting to come here to coach. This is a very important hire that should not be taken lightly which I'm sure SOS want take it lightly so what ever is decided I believe will be the best for the team. IMO I want Stoops to be the next DC he has proven he is a very good defensive coach that is what we need. We need a staff like Alabama where the assistants could be head coaches at some schools. Stoops being a head coach for 7 years and a proven DC that says a lot to recruits and other schools.

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  • People getting up in arms about this should look at SOS and his DC hiring history. Hoke, Stoops and Zook didn't have any DC experience. I think Ward would do just fine. He's a players coach and I don't have any doubt they will play their hearts out for him Jan 2nd.

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  • cdthompson said...

    Passing attack?

    Ward is a former DB, who has coached secondaries his entire career, and our pass defense only picked up this year when Whammy had his way and played more Man-2-Man coverage.

    If Ward knows one thing, it's secondaries.

    And I keep returning ot the fact that he had two stints under EJ and a very long run at V. Tech under Beamer. I doubt he is as "In-Over-His-Head" as some of you make it out to be...

    Coaching up your unit and game planning against an offense are two completely different things. Sure, he has worked with coaches doing that, but how many times has he actually sat down and prepared an entire defense against an opposing team by himself with complete control? I actually agree with you on Ward's track record as a position coach. He has very little, if any, track record when coming up with actual game plans to shut down opposing offenses by himself. That is what has people up in arms here.

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  • Cockfather said...

    I'm sure Hyman has chimed in on saving $$$ and not making a bigtime hire. Looks like we go back to "5 loss Spurrier" and more bowl trips to Shreveport in our future.

    So much for our short lived run of major success in the SEC.

    Merry F#%@ING Christmas Gamecock Nation.

    This....... Great post

    But hey, these whinners on here will have a great scoreboard to see the opposing teams touchdowns....

    Merry, merry... as above....

    This post was edited by jojousc1967 on 12/22/2011 at 11:45 AM

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  • BCMCock05 said...

    Jeep Hunter could run the same defense in the bowl game we have all hear. Would you want him for DC?

    Ohhhh boy the sky is falling!

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  • SCGAME07 said...

    I agree and not only continuity on the staff, but Ward would also likely run the same scheme which we have recruited and developed for, especially with the SPUR concept.

    I also agree.

    Upvote...

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