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But he actually signed with Junior and developed under him.

I'm not sure why you hold this grudge against Junior? Did he do something to you?

Rice, Mckinley, Alshon. Three of the best WR to ever play here, and that position has consistently been a strength during the entire Spurrier era.

You literally contribute nothing to this board other than whining about certain players/coaches/administrators. Why do you pay 10 dollars to a month to whine to others. No one else is entertained or enlightened by your insight.

I'm sure you will play coy with your comeback. Can't wait until Ace Sanders has about 1000 receiving yards this year, maybe you will finally shut up.

I don't have a problem with Junior's coaching. He's a pretty good coach. He's not, in my opinion, a very good recruiter and he's not , in my opinion, a very good evaluator of talent. You'll also note that I didn't bring up the subject of Junior in the thread.

As for whether others find my posts entertaining or enlightening I couldn't care less.

As big of a BJ fan as you will ever find. Great college player. Thought for sure he was savvy enough to play in the NBA.

That said, watched him play in the D League and he was not quick enough or a consistent enough outside shooter to play in the NBA at his height.

I don't discount he may have been drafter had he played for a powerhouse, but not sure. We receive a ton of exposure while he played. Even if drafted, not sure he would have made a team. I do agree on Vaughn. Another very good college player, but looked ether than he was because of all the stars he played with at KU.

I'll go one step further. Throughout the past long difficult season, these players practiced and played hard and kept their morale high all the way through to the last game, and they had to tolerate jeers from the fans about themselves and their coach. The people who behave in that fashion aren't fans at all. They are selfish, disloyal jerks and I am ashamed that they associate themselves with other people who really are Gamecock fans. The fact is, when a coach can take a team through a difficult season like we went through and keep the players on his side, that is great coaching. I know Horn did not do a great job on the bench this season, but I am proud that I supported him and the players all year long. Anyone who did not I could spit in his face.

If the kids does not want to be here...I do not want them here. It does not matter the reason.

Even if every player on last years team transfers because Horn was fired...we will still be bettrer off without Horn in the long run. He was not going to get us to where we want to go..even if we gave him 20 years..so better to be done with him and let a coach with skills take the reigns.

There is not a player on our team that is so good we should fret about them transfering. Yes.....there are some players with some real potential...but if they do not have the heart and willingness to buy into the program and the school..they will never be anything more than mediocre. We can make do with some juco kids for a year or so and recruit Martin's players.

Totally agree. If the players don't want to play then I am not going to waste my time watching them not want to play

I know I get ripped everytime I mention how these were high rated recruits when they signed. But they were. But they still had to be developed into SEC college level players. It would have been real interesting to see where this same team would be today had they had the benefit of a good coach/developer from the outset. I just hope they learned enough in 1-2 years so that Martin won't have to start from scratch to get them to that level. I don't blame some of the players if they are disillusioned by the lack of success and poor fan support but they should give Martin a chance to change it all.

I don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
Lots of coaches at lots of different places have taken over losing teams and went on to win with them.
Matt Doherty was pretty bad at a place almost impossible to lose at, UNC, and Roy Williams was probably pretty glad he didn't run off Sean May and the others because they had the stink of losing on them.
Brad Scott is as big a loser as we've ever had and I'm glad Holtz didn't see fit to run Phil Petty and others off.
If Anthony Gill wants to leave, so long to him.
But I hope Martin coaches up the daylights out of guys who are staying like Leonard and Williams.

Good lord I NEVER agree with BigAssAl but you made me do it today.

You do realized that these young men are given a total free ride to a college education, right. Many of us played a sport in college and if you ask everyone of us that did we will tell you sir that while having a crowd watch us was great, we would have played the game regardless if no one showedup. We represented our school and our team mates first.

No crowd shows up to cheer us on when we had to lift weights 4 days a week and run the other 3 days but that didn't stop us from doing it. No crowd showed up, in my case, during the heat of a southern summer when we ran play after play without a single coach around for hours. No crowd showed up at 7 am for 2 a days.

Players don't play for the crowd, they play because they love the game. And many of us wish we could go back in time to just play it one more time in an empty stadium or not.

Finally could you do me a favor.....I like Connor Shaw as much as the next guy but that photo of yours is very gay looking....please replace it with an action shot or something...........

Positive emotions?

Thanks. Haven't laughed that hard in a good while.