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Hire Bruce Pearl

  • rmctacdmc said...

    No I know there is no LOI against Kentucky.

    There doesn't have to be one in order for them pay extra attention to him then say Coach K. Previous offenders always under more scrutiny, and under a different microscope.

    97srad750

  • Hyman cares about his past. Hyman has integrity, and will not hire someone like Pearl.

    When you become the AD, you can make the choice. Until then, Pearl has no chance.

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  • 97srad750 said...

    There doesn't have to be one in order for them pay extra attention to him then say Coach K. Previous offenders always under more scrutiny, and under a different microscope.

    WOuld trade it for the success they are having, heck I'd trade it for a couple tourney appearances at this point.

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  • rmctacdmc said...

    Pearl isn't available until after the NCAA stuff will have been respolved, no issue there.

    He's untouchable until at least 2014 when the show cause expires. Total non issue. No team is going to go within 100 miles of that scumbag anytime soon. Particularly one that has recently appeared before the infractions committee as we have.
    I'm sorry but to suggest we should fire the current coach to go after Pearl is insane.

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  • If you make a change you get Marshall. Some may say he's an ahole, but as far as I know he isn't a known liar and cheat. He is allowed to coach, he does seem to have an affection for the university so it isn't a stop gap, and just like Pearl he has won at every stop.

    97srad750

  • With the NCAA issue with Pearl. this is one of the dumbest posts I've seen.

    cockballfan ●

  • cockballfan said...

    With the NCAA issue with Pearl. this is one of the dumbest posts I've seen.

    Oh we're capab;le of much worse, remember Choaching?

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  • 97srad750 said...

    If you make a change you get Marshall. Some may say he's an ahole, but as far as I know he isn't a known liar and cheat. He is allowed to coach, he does seem to have an affection for the university so it isn't a stop gap, and just like Pearl he has won at every stop.

    IF you ain't cheatin, you ain't tryin.....

    oh wait that's NASCAR, nevermind..

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  • rmctacdmc said...

    Really? Who do you think we are? Pearl is a proven high level winner, and you want to turn your nose up at him, in favor of another mid major coach? Sorry, I'll take the chance and go with the proven SEC winner.

    I wouldn't say i'm turning my nose up at him, integrity means something to me and I don't apologize for that. I'm sure Pearl would win here but he's not the only guy that can. I prefer someone that will win while playing by the rules ala Spurrier, Tanner. Just because our team isn't winning doesn't mean I have to agree with the concept of bringing in a coach who was banned for a couple years due to violations. I didn't say a word about bringing in another mid-major coach.

    This post was edited by jaydeejazzyjeff on 2/22/2012 at 10:59 AM

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  • jaydeejazzyjeff said...

    I wouldn't say i'm turning my nose up at him, integrity means something to me and I don't apologize for that. I'm sure Pearl would win here but he's not the only guy that can. I prefer someone that will win while playing by the rules ala Spurrier, Tanner. Just because our team isn't winning doesn't mean I have to agree with the concept of bringing in a coach who was banned for a couple years due to violations. I didn't say a word about bringing in another mid-major coach.

    So who is that sure fire guy capable of what Pearl can do. IF you say Marshall then you are being hopefully, Marshall is as big a risk as a lot of other coaches, he's never done it at the High Major level.

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  • 87uscfan ●

  • I want a team full of players who have integrity, and I don't know how a coach with demonstrably compromised integrity could ever teach that ... so you can count me out of the group wanting Pearl here.

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  • rmctacdmc said...

    So who is that sure fire guy capable of what Pearl can do. IF you say Marshall then you are being hopefully, Marshall is as big a risk as a lot of other coaches, he's never done it at the High Major level.

    I don't have that answer for you. All I'm saying is that I would rather Pearl not be that guy. My opinion means nothing in the grand scheme of things though.

    jaydeejazzyjeff

  • The sure fire thing I know he WILL do is cheat.

    We've found a way to win 2 National Championships in baseball without sacrificing integrity.

    Found a way to start winning big in football - arguably a harder challenge than the basketball program - without sacrificing integrity.

    We should be able to do the same with basketball. PEARL HAS NONE - neither personally or professionally. No thanks.

    It amazes me how many people don't care about integrity. To my mind, that is Hirt term thinking that almost always comes back to bite someone in the butt.

    It does matter.

    This post was edited by ospop4690 on 2/22/2012 at 1:19 PM

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  • kumarcock said...

    A blowhard dbag that cheats?? I'd rather just keep losing.

    and you will

    LONGBALL

  • Jelsik Sturm said...

    I care about his past. Plus, I don't like his personality.

    You mean a personable, funny, energetic guy who has good relationships with the fans and others in the athletic department?

    Yeah I'd rather have Horn fingergun

    This post was edited by joetheogre on 2/22/2012 at 1:52 PM

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  • joetheogre said...

    You mean a personable, funny, energetic guy who has good relationships with the fans and others in the athletic department?

    You just described Dabo, but that doesn't mean I would want that loudmouth as our next football coach.

    The rug really tied the room together, did it not?

    kumarcock

  • o'spop said...

    It isn't about liking him. It is about having a recent issue with the NCAA that we are still working through and how hiring a known repeat cheater and liar would impact us.

    First, the perception from the NCAA would be that we aren't serious about compliance. That perception could create more scrutiny from the NCAA.

    Second, he has already shown to be a cheater and also a liar. He's already demonstrated he has the propensity. What's to say he won't do it again.

    Those are all good reasons not to hire him. Cheating in basketball would impact all sports.

    I believe he is also under a five year show cause reprimand. Means he really can't coach in the next five years unless a case is made to hire him. Does anyone really believe USC is in a position at this point in time to make that argument to the NCAA? That would be an interesting conversation to watch!

    We can't touch Bruce Pearl with a ten foot pole. We just cannot and the reasons should be obvious.

    This 100%

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  • kumarcock said...

    You just described Dabo, but that doesn't mean I would want that loudmouth as our next football coach.

    Fair enough. But Pearl has also shown that he can take so-so talent and win, as well as recruit. He went to the tourney every year at Tennessee, a program that hisotically is a lot like USC. Pearl doesn't sell religion to his recruits or his fanbase either.

    Pearl wouldn't be my first choice, but he also isn't the worst choice. A lot of people over here try and paint him as some ultra-sleezebag, a-hole when that really isn't the case. Pearl's big flaw is that he has bad judgement and a nasty habit of lying to the NCAA.

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  • joetheogre said...

    Fair enough. But Pearl has also shown that he can take so-so talent and win, as well as recruit. He went to the tourney every year at Tennessee, a program that hisotically is a lot like USC. Pearl doesn't sell religion to his recruits or his fanbase either.

    Pearl wouldn't be my first choice, but he also isn't the worst choice. A lot of people over here try and paint him as some ultra-sleezebag, a-hole when that really isn't the case. Pearl's big flaw is that he has bad judgement and a nasty habit of lying to the NCAA.

    Do you realize that he coached for over 10 years at the D-2 level winning like 85% of his games and a national championship, yet couldn't get a D-1 sniff until Wisconsin-Milwaukee gave him a chance? He was basically black balled because he tried to turn in Illinois for basically out cheating him as an assistant at Iowa. Some smaller school will eventually give him a chance like Morgan State did with Todd Bozeman. South Carolina should not be the school to sell their souls and bring Pearl here.

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  • MistaQ said...

    Do you realize that he coached for over 10 years at the D-2 level winning like 85% of his games and a national championship, yet couldn't get a D-1 sniff until Wisconsin-Milwaukee gave him a chance? He was basically black balled because he tried to turn in Illinois for basically out cheating him as an assistant at Iowa. Some smaller school will eventually give him a chance like Morgan State did with Todd Bozeman. South Carolina should not be the school to sell their souls and bring Pearl here.

    No I realize all he has done.

    Like you said though, a lot of it is blackballing/perception. If you go down the list of what he's done, it really isn't that bad. At Tennessee he had an illegal party and then got in trouble for trying to cover it up and telling others to lie. If he had turned himself in, he would have gotten barely a slap on the writst. His cheating isn't the reason he is good, it is just a character flaw. If Pearl had played by the rules in Tenn, he still would've had them in the tournament every year.

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  • o'spop said...

    It isn't about liking him. It is about having a recent issue with the NCAA that we are still working through and how hiring a known repeat cheater and liar would impact us.

    First, the perception from the NCAA would be that we aren't serious about compliance. That perception could create more scrutiny from the NCAA.

    Second, he has already shown to be a cheater and also a liar. He's already demonstrated he has the propensity. What's to say he won't do it again.

    Those are all good reasons not to hire him. Cheating in basketball would impact all sports.

    I believe he is also under a five year show cause reprimand. Means he really can't coach in the next five years unless a case is made to hire him. Does anyone really believe USC is in a position at this point in time to make that argument to the NCAA? That would be an interesting conversation to watch!

    We can't touch Bruce Pearl with a ten foot pole. We just cannot and the reasons should be obvious.

    Did he get a 5 year show cause or a 3 year show cause by the NCAA? I was under the impression it was a 3 year sentence that was handed down. If were stuck with Horn for one more year and its only 3 years on Pearl I wouldn't mind rolling the dice and seeing what happens.

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