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If Shamier steps up, we could have the most explosive set of Wrs

  • DeliciousTacos said...

    Our leading returning receiver caught 40 passes for 600 yards. Damier caught 14 passes last year. 14. Fourteen. Shamier Jeffery and Kwinton Smith have zero career catches combined. This is the group of receivers you're touting as potentially being the most explosive in the country. It's late, maybe you should go to bed, champ.

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  • GeauxCocks7 said...

    cmon dude. dont be a closet gamecock fan who only comes out when we do good. look at our team. who has a better tight end combo than buster and jerell. we are in the top 10 for a reason and have back to back 11 win seasons for a reason. If Ace had come back would you say we would? If you say no, tell me who has a better set and lets compare.

    How would be realistic make me a closet Gamecock fan? Im an alum and die-hard fan. But we arent even close to having the top receiver corp in the nation. Even if Ace came back we wouldnt be top 5. I would say SoCal, Clemson, Bama, Okie St, Arizona, Oregon St, Texas A&M, etc. Its not like I think our receivers are trash. I just think some Gamecocks (yourself, steve miller, random guys at the bar) get carried away with this "best in the nation" talk. Any of our RBs could start for any SEC team? I think the guys on Bama, LSU, Georgia, A&M might have somethin to say about that.

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  • The Benk said...

    How would be realistic make me a closet Gamecock fan? Im an alum and die-hard fan. But we arent even close to having the top receiver corp in the nation. Even if Ace came back we wouldnt be top 5. I would say SoCal, Clemson, Bama, Okie St, Arizona, Oregon St, Texas A&M, etc. Its not like I think our receivers are trash. I just think some Gamecocks (yourself, steve miller, random guys at the bar) get carried away with this "best in the nation" talk. Any of our RBs could start for any SEC team? I think the guys on Bama, LSU, Georgia, A&M might have somethin to say about that.

    SoCals Marquis Lee is better than any of our receivers, Ill give you that. As a whole, looking at the collective group, you cant prove to me that any of those teams have a better group of TEs and Wrs. Hopkins left too if you didnt realize

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  • GeauxCocks7 said...

    SoCals Marquis Lee is better than any of our receivers, Ill give you that. As a whole, looking at the collective group, you cant prove to me that any of those teams have a better group of TEs and Wrs. Hopkins left too if you didnt realize

    I can't "prove" anything. But all of those teams have better returning players than we have. Here is your argument "proving" that USC could have the best receiving corp in the nation...

    Bruce - Came on at the end of last year. Lead the team in receiving and showed he could be a go-to guy. Does that mean he is better than Brandon Cooks, Austin Hill, Josh Stewart, Amari Cooper, Mike Evans, and Marquis Lee? No... he is not. And chances are that he still wont be next year. You think those guys arent going to work all spring summer and fall to be better than they were a year ago?

    Byrd - Sure he had trouble with dropping passes but he caught some long ones! That is awesome but he number one thing you have to do as a receiver is CATCH the ball. I hope he gets it turned around but so far he has been a disappointment.

    Adams - Made two or three memorable plays all season. For whatever reason he didnt have the season that we imagined. A lot of that has to do with the guys in front of him playing well but it isnt like we had a TE with 700 yards receiving, You didnt even mention Buster who I think will have a bigger year than Adams.

    Nick Jones - Again. two or three memorable plays all year. You think he is all of a sudden going to get 1000 yards? They are already talking about Kwinton Smith taking his spot at the B. What does that say? To me, it doesnt say that Kwinton Smith is the next Sidney Rice. It just says that he might be a better option than Nick Jones...which isnt saying a whole hell of a lot.

    and finally...

    S. Jeffery - A talented player that has never caught the ball and has had work ethic issues finally started working out in the weight room. I think we can all agree that he has proven less than or equal to any other receiver on any of the teams I mentioned. All of those teams have talented players on their roster...and some of them are more talented that Jeffery. At the very least the 2nd, 3rd, 4th options at those other schools have at least gotten in a game and caught a damn ball. Shameir has just goofed off on the sidelines.

    If you want to refute any of those points feel free but I think any person with half an ounce of sense can see that you are reaching and im being realistic.

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  • GeauxCocks7 said...

    SoCals Marquis Lee is better than any of our receivers, Ill give you that. As a whole, looking at the collective group, you cant prove to me that any of those teams have a better group of TEs and Wrs. Hopkins left too if you didnt realize

    Lee is preseason heisman candidate hi will have more yards than any receiver we have. Like the other poster said shamier and a few others have zero catches. Not to mention we have a mobile qb who in three years loves to run. One I don't think we throw enough to have the best and two we are way unproven to have the best. And don't say anything about a closet fan because I drove to every single game. I'd love for us to have the best wr group if it puts us 12-0. If it takes Davis and wilds to be 12-0 then so be it. Just win!

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  • The Benk said...

    I can't "prove" anything. But all of those teams have better returning players than we have. Here is your argument "proving" that USC could have the best receiving corp in the nation...

    Bruce - Came on at the end of last year. Lead the team in receiving and showed he could be a go-to guy. Does that mean he is better than Brandon Cooks, Austin Hill, Josh Stewart, Amari Cooper, Mike Evans, and Marquis Lee? No... he is not. And chances are that he still wont be next year. You think those guys arent going to work all spring summer and fall to be better than they were a year ago?

    Byrd - Sure he had trouble with dropping passes but he caught some long ones! That is awesome but he number one thing you have to do as a receiver is CATCH the ball. I hope he gets it turned around but so far he has been a disappointment.

    Adams - Made two or three memorable plays all season. For whatever reason he didnt have the season that we imagined. A lot of that has to do with the guys in front of him playing well but it isnt like we had a TE with 700 yards receiving, You didnt even mention Buster who I think will have a bigger year than Adams.

    Nick Jones - Again. two or three memorable plays all year. You think he is all of a sudden going to get 1000 yards? They are already talking about Kwinton Smith taking his spot at the B. What does that say? To me, it doesnt say that Kwinton Smith is the next Sidney Rice. It just says that he might be a better option than Nick Jones...which isnt saying a whole hell of a lot.

    and finally...

    S. Jeffery - A talented player that has never caught the ball and has had work ethic issues finally started working out in the weight room. I think we can all agree that he has proven less than or equal to any other receiver on any of the teams I mentioned. All of those teams have talented players on their roster...and some of them are more talented that Jeffery. At the very least the 2nd, 3rd, 4th options at those other schools have at least gotten in a game and caught a damn ball. Shameir has just goofed off on the sidelines.

    If you want to refute any of those points feel free but I think any person with half an ounce of sense can see that you are reaching and im being realistic.

    hence the title, IF Shamier steps up and becomes as sure handed as his older brother. I can agree with u I am going out on a limb and saying this, but after the season lets have another talk about this subject.

    Changing gears, do you think we have one of the bbest defensive lines in the country? Im interested to here your opinion on our Dline now

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  • GeauxCocks7 said...

    hence the title, IF Shamier steps up and becomes as sure handed as his older brother. I can agree with u I am going out on a limb and saying this, but after the season lets have another talk about this subject.

    Changing gears, do you think we have one of the bbest defensive lines in the country? Im interested to here your opinion on our Dline now

    Yes I do believe we have a top 5 DL in the country. We have one of, if not THE best individual lineman in Clowney. On the other side we have Chaz Sutton ready to step into the starting role. He has been here for 5 years and has made plays the last two. I believe he had 4 or 5 sacks and applied some pressure. Kelcy has been a starter for over a year and while he hasnt been as dominating as we expect he is still a great lineman. Surratt showed enough in games to tell me that he can replace Byron. English is the wild card. We dont really know what he can do yet because barely played last season. But that little bit of playing time is still enough to help him this year because it wont all be new. And that is more than Jeffery can say.

    Edit: Notice I did say Clowney might be the absolute best DE in the country. The entire country. I can pump some sunshine too...but only when it is warranted. And I didnt say he definitely is bc there are some other freaks out there...but he is at least in the discussion for #1. Our WR group is not anywhere near that discussion.

    This post was edited by The Benk on 2/8/2013 at 3:03 PM

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  • bluecrab said...

    I share everyone's support of Wilds but Davis is better.....

    Based on what? It's certainly not performance. Wilds has broken the 100 yard mark 3 times, Davis hasn't done it once. Hell Wilds' performance against Florida alone last season is more impressive than anything Davis has ever done. The only thing Mike Davis does better than Wilds, at this point, is completely whiff on his blocking assignments. Which he managed to do almost every time he tried to block last season. Worst blocking back I've seen in a long time, in fact. I swear, some of you just say things because they sound good to you, regardless of whether they have any basis in reality...

    "Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration--courage, clear thinking, honesty...and love of truth"

    DeliciousTacos

  • DeliciousTacos said...

    Based on what? It's certainly not performance. Wilds has broken the 100 yard mark 3 times, Davis hasn't done it once. Hell Wilds' performance against Florida alone last season is more impressive than anything Davis has ever done. The only thing Mike Davis does better than Wilds, at this point, is completely whiff on his blocking assignments. Which he managed to do almost every time he tried to block last season. Worst blocking back I've seen in a long time, in fact. I swear, some of you just say things because they sound good to you, regardless of whether they have any basis in reality...

    Let me start by saying I like Wilds. I think he has great patience, and vision. That said, he is about as slow as any RB in the BCS, and he is not going to make anybody miss in the open field. You pride yourself on being realistic, and reality is that Wilds is not in Davis's league talent-wise. Patience and vision are very important traits for a RB, and Wilds has shown he can be successful. His ceiling is about a 12 yard run, though. I'm not sure if that is a bad thing. Davis is a threat to bust one for a TD anytime he gets the ball. That is the difference.

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  • steve miller said...

    Let me start by saying I like Wilds. I think he has great patience, and vision. That said, he is about as slow as any RB in the BCS, and he is not going to make anybody miss in the open field. You pride yourself on being realistic, and reality is that Wilds is not in Davis's league talent-wise. Patience and vision are very important traits for a RB, and Wilds has shown he can be successful. His ceiling is about a 12 yard run, though. I'm not sure if that is a bad thing. Davis is a threat to bust one for a TD anytime he gets the ball. That is the difference.

    Davis has shown nothing to indicate that he's better than Wilds. Wilds has been more effective in every way.

    "Religion is fundamentally opposed to everything I hold in veneration--courage, clear thinking, honesty...and love of truth"

    DeliciousTacos

  • GeauxCocks7 said...

    Thank you. on paper our OFFENSE is much better next year

    FIFY

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  • The Benk said...

    Its not about someone saying our receivers have potential. Of course they do. It is embarrassing to hear a fellow Gamecock say that we may have the "most explosive group of receivers in the country." ... IN THE COUNTRY. That is just not going to happen. We will be lucky for a single guy to break 1000 yards. If we had be the best group in the country we would have at the very least 2 1000 yard receivers. When my drunk friends say things like that in front of Clemson/Georgia/Florida etc. fans I cringe and apologize on behalf of Gamecock Nation bc I dont want anyone thinking that we are all that delusional.

    I agree with this

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  • GeauxCocks7 said...

    cmon dude. dont be a closet gamecock fan who only comes out when we do good. look at our team. who has a better tight end combo than buster and jerell. we are in the top 10 for a reason and have back to back 11 win seasons for a reason. If Ace had come back would you say we would? If you say no, tell me who has a better set and lets compare.

    dude what are you talking about?

    closet gamecock? why b/c he's being a realist and not a homer?

    IF ace would of comeback? you didn't say that in your OP you said without Ace we could have the most explosive set of WR's in the country. he's not back so therefore we have ONE proven receiver in Ellington. Byrd needs to be more consistent and the rest we don't know a lot about other than practice reports, star ratings and limited PT.

    DavidsonNCCock

  • GeauxCocks7 said...

    SoCals Marquis Lee is better than any of our receivers, Ill give you that. As a whole, looking at the collective group, you cant prove to me that any of those teams have a better group of TEs and Wrs. Hopkins left too if you didnt realize

    now you're including TE's in your argument to prove your OP??

    LULZ

    DavidsonNCCock

  • people are getting emotional. What else are we going to talk about between now and spring practice. We could have dominate WRs or we could have largely ineffective WRs.

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  • 2001A said...

    Maybe not all of us should think that way but atleast Spurrier does. You can be an optimist and realist at the same time....Bruce is our only proven consistent gametime WR. If you believe the words "other receivers need to step up" then you are along the same line of thought. Thats not saying our other guys dont have the ability to take over it just says they have to prove it

    This is not meant to sound like an arse but you have no idea what SOS thinks. I have talked to him very recently about our wrs and he is very high on their potential and believes Bruce has just as much talent if not more than Ike Hillard. Loves Kwinton Smith and expect to.see J. Adams a lot at Wr.

    Cockjudicata

  • DeliciousTacos said...

    Davis has shown nothing to indicate that he's better than Wilds. Wilds has been more effective in every way.

    I dont know who is better but the comparison is unfair given that they have not played behind the same ol. Imo Wilds had a better ol.

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