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In the "wow" early recruiting department

  • EarshotCock said...

    The real question is, how many of them are rated that highly just because they have offers from Texas?

    Very few, I imagine. Most of the ones I looked at with high ratings have offers from numerous big schools. Check out the 247 list if you wish to confirm.

    This post was edited by Plano on 4/13/2012 at 7:13 PM

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  • Mack Brown is the poster boy for doing less with more.

    84GCock

  • Plano said...

    Interesting stat, but using current populations, this means that for every 3.24 NFL draftees from SC, there are

    16.13 draftees from CA
    13.47 draftees from TX
    6.81 draftees from GA and
    5.46 draftees from LA

    Very true. Also consider the size of TX though. It's 8.38 times the size of SC. So, if you cut it up into pieces the size of SC you would only get 1.61 draftees from TX for every 3.24 from SC. Any way you dice it, SC produces more NFL players per capita and per sq mile. It isn't really close either. I know Texas football is serious business, I just think there are a lot of places with much higher concentrations of talent.

    I'd love to run the same numbers vs. Rivals100 (only because 247 doesn't have enough historical data yet). I'd bet that TX has as many highly rated players as the southeastern states per capita and per sq mi.

    Interesting topic.

    Jefe5235

  • lmtpao said...

    The stadiums are big in a lot of cases because there is one per district. The JV and freshman teams play at the high school, but the varsity plays at a regional stadium.

    My boys played for todd dodge at southlake carroll in the mid 2000's, in a 5 year stretch we played 80 games,won 79... went to state 5 years in a row and won 4 out of 5, greatest run in texas 5A football history... this is the stadium we played in.. only 1 school played here.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by coxrox on 4/14/2012 at 8:38 AM

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  • Jefe` said...

    Very true. Also consider the size of TX though. It's 8.38 times the size of SC. So, if you cut it up into pieces the size of SC you would only get 1.61 draftees from TX for every 3.24 from SC. Any way you dice it, SC produces more NFL players per capita and per sq mile. It isn't really close either. I know Texas football is serious business, I just think there are a lot of places with much higher concentrations of talent.

    I'd love to run the same numbers vs. Rivals100 (only because 247 doesn't have enough historical data yet). I'd bet that TX has as many highly rated players as the southeastern states per capita and per sq mi.

    Interesting topic.

    Your math is wrong. You just posted that per 100,000 population Texas produces 2.48 and SC produces 3.whatever. Now you are saying 1.61 instead of 2.48. One of those has to be wrong, since they are both based upon population.

    My post was not about concentration of talent, it was about talent, period. I have seen Texas high school football and it is an excellent product. QB play in particular is way above what I have seen in SC (granted I have not seen a game in SC in many years, but SC produces very few D1 QBs, even per capita). The size of the state plays a factor, of course, but I also believe the style of play enters into it with QBs in a big way. Lots more passing in Texas than in SC high schools.

    Texas has a populatoin that is over 8 times bigger than that of SC. We produce more D1 signees in the Dallas area alone than the entire state of SC. Of course, we should, because the Dallas/Fort Worth metro area is larger than the entire state of SC by a few milliion people.

    My point is that there are many top flight players in Texas and that UTEX is off to a great start in getting its share. The post had nothing to do with USC or the state of SC in any way.

    If you have seen a lot of high school ball in Texas and disagree with the quality, then more power to you. We will have to agree to disagree. If you have not witnessed high school ball in Texas, then I believe is it unfair to judge a product you have never seen.

    One other thing. I looked at the 247 list for 2012 and 2013. The numbers for the 5 states you mentioned are pretty much in line with the draft numbers I posted above using population ratios and your original draft number per 100,000 (CA and TX getting a lot more guys rated by 247 than GA and LA, but in a pretty proportionate way. SC 247 numbers were skewed due to the fact that JC says 2012 and 2013 are both really down years for talent. The other four states had numbers you might expect, given size and per capita NFL talent. FWIW.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Plano on 4/13/2012 at 10:49 PM

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