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Indoor Football Practice Facility.....

  • Requests for Architect Engineering Services was advertised in SCBO last week for the new indoor practice facility. Below is a copy and paste of the advertisement. Also note that our budget for this buildingis 12-14 million. Clemson is starting to build their new facility now and they are only spending 9.3 Million. Ours will be bigger and better...Yet another way we are kicking their asses on the field and off.

    Project Name: INDOOR FOOTBALL PRACTICE FACILITY
    Project Number: H27-6090-MJ
    Project Location: USC, Columbia
    Applicable SCBO Notes: 1, 4, & 5
    Location at Which Public Notice of
    Meetings Will Be Posted: 743 Greene St., Columbia, SC 29208
    Description of Project: The University of South Carolina is seeking archi-tectural & engineering services for Phase I design & estimating services for construction of a new indoor football practice facility. This project will involve construc-tion of a new facility on the west end of the old Farmer’s Market site (1001 Bluff Rd.) to include a full-size turf football practice field with end zones & appropriate sideline runoff areas. The facility also will include support facilities, such as restrooms, storage & training room, & is to include film towers for use in video re-cording during practices. The A/E team may have the op-portunity to proceed to the Phase II portion of the project. The A/E will be subject to a performance appraisal as defined in the Man-ual for Planning & Execution of State Permanent Improvements, Part II. Any questions concerning the terms & conditions of the pro-posed contract must be ad-dressed to the Agency Coordina-tor listed later in this ad.
    Anticipated Construction Cost Range: $12,000,000 - $14,000,000
    Description of Professional Services
    Anticipated for Project: Architectural, civil, mechanical, electrical, plumbing, fire protection, structural & indoor design specialist
    Information to Be Submitted In
    Addition to Standard Federal
    Form 330: The lead design firm should document clearly the entity pro-viding the specialty sports design for the facility. Three examples of previously designed & con-structed NCAA or NFL football in-door practice facilities should be provided
    Note: Interested parties should submit the name & contact information, in-cluding E-mail address, of a pri-mary contact as part of their submittal. All written communica-tion with a party submitting infor-mation will be done via E-mail.
    Resume Deadline: 2/23/12 – 2:00pm
    Number of Copies: 6
    Agency/Owner: University of South Caro-lina
    Name & Title of Agency Coordinator: Lind Jackson, Contract Adminis-trator
    Agency Address: 743 Greene St., Colum-bia, SC 29208
    Agency Phone: (803) 777-3489
    Agency Fax: (803) 777-8739
    Agency Coordinator E-mail: ljackson@fmc.sc.ed – Agency will not accept submittals via E-mail

    This post was edited by Chalky White on 2/6/2012 at 9:04 AM

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  • Any idea when construction would begin? I thought this was on hold. It would definitely help the camp experience.

    Jefe5235

  • our firm is on a team pursuing this. we were also shortlisted for the clemson facility but did not get it. I have been ribbing all of the taters at work about the difference in budget lol.

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  • cockengr said...

    our firm is on a team pursuing this. we were also shortlisted for the clemson facility but did not get it. I have been ribbing all of the taters at work about the difference in budget lol.

    Have you seen the flyover presentation for the clemson facility? Overall, it looks cheap. I do like that it can become open-air. That's a pretty cool feature. And it is at a pretty cool location with the peninsula type feel.
    But the facility itself is not impressive.
    I hope you guys can come up with a bid and concept that is impressive to the University!

    TaylorsCock

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  • TaylorsCock said...

    Have you seen the flyover presentation for the clemson facility? Overall, it looks cheap. I do like that it can become open-air.

    What's the point of that?

    It's like putting a screen porch on a bomb shelter.

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  • TaylorsCock said...

    Have you seen the flyover presentation for the clemson facility? Overall, it looks cheap. I do like that it can become open-air. That's a pretty cool feature. And it is at a pretty cool location with the peninsula type feel. But the facility itself is not impressive. I hope you guys can come up with a bid and concept that is impressive to the University!

    yeah that flyover was done as a part of the initial presentation to try to win the job by the team that won..i.e. it was done for free and to get a design concept across...

    the Clemson one was design/build so it was a contractor led team that brought their own engineers and architects...so basically we as the designers were a very small part of the equation and the proposed price from the contractor was very important to the selection.

    USC is doing design-bid-build meaning they are soliciting the most qualified design team to start with, regardless of design fee, then they negotiate the contract with the design firm...we would then (hopefully) design the facility then will assist USC with putting it out for bid...

    the process Clemson used - design/build in this case gets you a better priced project, whereas to me the process USC is using will get you the most qualified design team and hopefully a better design.

    they are very plain jane on the inside, all of them really (done a lot of research on facilities across the country)...the additional money USC is spending will hopefully translate to a better looking product with more bells and whistles...

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  • BCMCock05 said...

    What's the point of that?

    It's like putting a screen porch on a bomb shelter.

    point of it being open air - its next to several other practice fields - on a nice day they can use the fields in the outside and indoor facility right next to each other and players can run between both areas - make sense? like if you have ever been to one of our practices the players move back and forth to fields all the time.

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  • cockengr said...

    point of it being open air - its next to several other practice fields - on a nice day they can use the fields in the outside and indoor facility right next to each other and players can run between both areas - make sense? like if you have ever been to one of our practices the players move back and forth to fields all the time.

    Won't we have outdoor practice fields enough to accomodate everyone?

    If they were just excess capacity, don't really see why you would spend money to make them open air capable.

    I suppose you could simulate an outdoor field turf environment, but that's a rather rare event for us.

    VBCock

  • VBCock said...

    Won't we have outdoor practice fields enough to accomodate everyone?

    If they were just excess capacity, don't really see why you would spend money to make them open air capable.

    I suppose you could simulate an outdoor field turf environment, but that's a rather rare event for us.

    "open air" = rollup doors...not very expensive feature to add...

    also on the clemson one, the heating and A/C capabilities in the practice field itself were very toned down due to the amount of space of the structure...the heating and cooling in the training rooms and classrooms etc were normal, but in the big open space it was minimal. the open air gives you alot of flexibility on heating and cooling such a big space...for half the year you can have the doors open to assist in regulating the temperature.

    edit - this is clemson's we are talking about that is open air - I have no idea if thats our concept or not but I'd guess so for the reasons above.

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  • cockengr said...

    "open air" = rollup doors...not very expensive feature to add...

    also on the clemson one, the heating and A/C capabilities in the practice field itself were very toned down due to the amount of space of the structure...the heating and cooling in the training rooms and classrooms etc were normal, but in the big open space it was minimal. the open air gives you alot of flexibility on heating and cooling such a big space...for half the year you can have the doors open to assist in regulating the temperature.

    edit - this is clemson's we are talking about that is open air - I have no idea if thats our concept or not but I'd guess so for the reasons above.

    Makes sense.

    VBCock

  • Most of the indoor facilities that I've seen proposed or finished have at least a portion that can be made open air. FSU's design on google images seems to do the best job of avoiding the warehouse loading dock look.

    Jefe5235

  • cockengr said...

    "open air" = rollup doors...not very expensive feature to add...

    also on the clemson one, the heating and A/C capabilities in the practice field itself were very toned down due to the amount of space of the structure...the heating and cooling in the training rooms and classrooms etc were normal, but in the big open space it was minimal. the open air gives you alot of flexibility on heating and cooling such a big space...for half the year you can have the doors open to assist in regulating the temperature.

    edit - this is clemson's we are talking about that is open air - I have no idea if thats our concept or not but I'd guess so for the reasons above.

    Clemson's Facility has no AC and very little heat....FYI...

    Who do you work for CockEngr? I have very good connections with the successful GC and My company is gonna be doing some of the work on the Clemson Facility ( I will spit on Dabo If I see him FWIW) Thought I may could put a good word in for you with them for future work if any arises (No Homo)

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    Clemson's Facility has no AC and very little heat....FYI...

    Who do you work for CockEngr? I have very good connections with the successful GC and My company is gonna be doing some of the work on the Clemson Facility ( I will spit on Dabo If I see him FWIW) Thought I may could put a good word in for you with them for future work if any arises (No Homo)

    I will PM you...

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  • TaylorsCock said...

    Have you seen the flyover presentation for the clemson facility? Overall, it looks cheap.

    Can we see it? Got a link?

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  • This is going to be a tremendous recruiting tool.

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  • JustinKing said...

    This is going to be a tremendous recruiting tool.

    its basically the next thing in the recruiting arms race - these are going up all over the country. when we were sitting in preliminary meetings at clemson they made no bones about it:

    1a) this is a football practice facility
    1b) this is a recruiting tool

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  • cockengr said...

    its basically the next thing in the recruiting arms race - these are going up all over the country. when we were sitting in preliminary meetings at clemson they made no bones about it:

    1a) this is a football practice facility 1b) this is a recruiting tool

    The more spectacular we make it the better. I would be honored to make a promotional video for this when it is completed. Video would pretty much make itself...the amount of upgrades that are happening at USC right now are nothing short of spectacular. The future is bright.

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    This is going to be a tremendous recruiting tool.

    accidental downvote

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    This is going to be a tremendous recruiting tool.

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  • Cockengr, i saw the design as well as we were on 3 of the six teams. Its pretty crazy that it eventually went out of state as far as design goes, but hey i guess that is how the cookie crumbles. I was talking with my boss about this the other day. Hopefully we will be able to keep this one in state as far as engineers go. There aren't many architects in our state that specialize in this type of work. If you dont mind me asking, what discipline are you, and who do you work for? Never a bad idea to do a little networking.

    KillaKudjo

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