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Mike Hold question for the board

  • I was browsing through rosters, and Mike Hold was shown on the '85 roster. I don't know a) if he was on that roster, because I do not remember him playing at all that year, or b) if that roster was accurate.

    Does anyone know why he only played one year for USC? Was he a juco?

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    Ally will beat the crap out of Uga.

    steve miller

  • steve miller said...

    I was browsing through rosters, and Mike Hold was shown on the '85 roster. I don't know a) if he was on that roster, because I do not remember him playing at all that year, or b) if that roster was accurate.

    Does anyone know why he only played one year for USC? Was he a juco?

    He was a Sr. in '85. RS his jr. year in '83, out of Juco

    Cockbert

  • my first jersey was a mike hold jersey.

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  • Cockbert said...

    He was a Sr. in '85. RS his jr. year in '83, out of Juco

    I went to the Mich game in '85, and he did not play a lick. Only Alan Mitchell, I think played. I was 9, but I don't remember him playing at all that year.

    I worshipped him when I was little, and I thought he was gone by '85. Did he play any in '85?

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    steve miller

  • This play happened in 1985. I remember seeing this on Warner Wolf's Plays of the Decade show as a kid when I had just moved from SC to Connecticut.

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    South Carolina vs. Pittsburgh Mike Hold am...

    South Carolina vs. Pittsburgh Mike Hold amazing play!!he dogged many tackles and passed to a reciever and was deflected into another Gamecock's hand and was named ESPN's play of the decade

    http://www.youtube.com/v/aALTHjC4VO4

    EastTnGamecock4361

  • steve miller said...

    I went to the Mich game in '85, and he did not play a lick. Only Alan Mitchell, I think played. I was 9, but I don't remember him playing at all that year.

    I worshipped him when I was little, and I thought he was gone by '85. Did he play any in '85?

    Hold was the Gamecocks' starting quarterback the entire 1985 season.

    You are in error about the Michigan game. He started the game but was replaced by Mitchell late in the first half.

    Here is the game story that appeared in The Charlotte Observer on Sept. 22, 1985:

    MICHIGAN MANHANDLES SOUTH CAROLINA 34-3

    The South Carolina football players walked silently into their locker room
    after their 34-3 loss to Michigan Saturday. What could they say? No single
    play or series of plays turned the contest. Michigan dominated the line of
    scrimmage and the game.

    South Carolina was held to 35 yards passing and 167 yards rushing for a
    total of 202 yards. The Gamecock running backs had no holes through which to
    run and the quarterbacks had no time to pass.

    The 74,200 fans at Williams-Brice Stadium began to leave early in the
    fourth quarter. By the end of the nationally televised contest, the 3,000
    Michigan fans, looking like bees in yellow and dark blue in one corner of the stadium, were making more noise.

    Michigan, which upset Notre Dame last week, is 2-0. South Carolina, which
    had eased into the season with victories against The Citadel and Appalachian
    State, is 2-1. Going into the game, South Carolina was ranked 15th, Michigan
    19th.

    It was the Gamecocks` most lopsided loss since a 52-14 drubbing by Georgia in 1974, and their first home loss since 1983.

    ``They came down here and drilled the ball down our throats,`` said South
    Carolina running back Raynard Brown.

    Despite Michigan`s 34 points, South Carolina coach Joe Morrison blamed the loss on his offense.

    ``I thought our defense played well,`` he said. ``The third downs in the
    first half (Michigan converted eight of 11) hurt us, but overall, I thought
    our defense played well enough that if the offense had done anything, it could have kept us in the ball game.``

    But South Carolina`s offense, which had averaged 557 total yards in its
    first two games, was reduced to tricks and gimmicks. The offensive line had
    had trouble against Appalachian State. Against the Wolverines the trouble was multiplied by about 10.

    Michigan`s offensive line averaged 270 pounds, South Carolina`s defensive
    line about 240. The difference in size and strength was overwhelming.

    ``We made up our minds to control the option and stop the big play,`` said Michigan coach Bo Schembechler. ``The big play has been the hallmark of the
    South Carolina teams, and we stopped it.``

    The Gamecocks` longest play was a 21-yard scramble by quarterback Mike
    Hold.

    In the first quarter, the Gamecocks two longest gains were scrambles of
    nine and 11 yards by Hold. Until they mounted a 75-yard drive at the end of
    the first half, the longest gain in the second quarter was four yards. The
    Gamecocks did not enter Michigan territory until the last 65 seconds of the
    first half.

    At that point the Wolverines led 14-0. They scored the first touchdown on
    an 11-play, 76-yard, first-quarter drive. Michigan scored its second touchdown after a six-play, 50-yard drive.

    After that, with the Gamecock fans standing and screaming, South Carolina
    finally showed the innovative offense that led to a 10-2 record last season.
    The Gamecocks got the ball with 2:11 left in the half, and with Allen Mitchell at quarterback in place of Hold, they began to move. Using a quick count, they used five straight runs to move into Michigan territory. But the drive came up five yards short, and with five seconds left in the half, South Carolina had
    to settle for a field goal.

    Finally the fans had something to cheer about.

    But if the players had momentum going into the locker room, they left it
    there. They received the ball to start the second half. But starting from
    their own 18, Mitchell threw an incomplete pass. On the next play, he rolled
    out, was hit and fumbled. He recoved it but the play lost nine yards. He spent the next play dodging Wolverine defenders in the end zone, barely eluding a
    safety by getting rid of the ball.

    Things got worse. South Carolina ran 18 plays in the third quarter and
    gained 17 yards.

    ``I was disappointed in our offensive line,`` Morrison said. ``Coming into the game, I didn`t think we would be able to score a lot of points, but I
    thought we would be able to control the football and move the chains. Michigan did a lot of stunting and angling with their defensive unit. I think we are
    going to have to go back to work, especially offensively

    This post was edited by Kelso Red on 5/14/2012 at 4:44 PM

    Kelso Red

  • Thanx, Guys. Shows how memories can play tricks on you. Especially when you are young. I remembered us getting drubbed, but I could have sworn that he didn't play.

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  • EastTn.Gamecock said...

    This play happened in 1985. I remember seeing this on Warner Wolf's Plays of the Decade show as a kid when I had just moved from SC to Connecticut.

    That was awesome. If I remember correctly, which I probably do not: wasn't that Raynard Brown who returned the Kickoff 99 yards in '84 against Fla St? Seems like he almost kneeled, or did, and the refs did not call it? Is that the same guy?

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    steve miller

  • I don't know where you're looking to see old rosters and stats but I"d suggest gamecockarchives.com it would have definitely answered that question for you

    jparke23

  • EastTn.Gamecock said...

    This play happened in 1985. I remember seeing this on Warner Wolf's Plays of the Decade show as a kid when I had just moved from SC to Connecticut.

    I do not remember that play. Thanks for linking it.

    At the end of the play, Raynard Brown catches the ball and runs it in for a touchdown. Do you remember another famous play Raynard Brown made the year before against a top 10 team where he ran back a kick off for a touchdown? 1984, ESPN, night game, USC and ? were undefeated in the middle of the season and Williams Brice stadium was swayin'.

    One of the more exciting games and plays I have ever seen and, oh, by the way, his knee did touch the ground when he caught the ball on the kickoff. The refs missed it.

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  • I remember watching Mike Hold throw a football 70 yards in the air once..... massive arm on that boy.

    CockyMike1

  • CockyMike1 said...

    I remember watching Mike Hold throw a football 70 yards in the air once..... massive arm on that boy.

    Over them mountains?

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    mpcoan

  • CockyMike1 said...

    I remember watching Mike Hold throw a football 70 yards in the air once..... massive arm on that boy.

    Hold also made at least two quick kicks on third down -- a play you rarely see anymore.,

    Kelso Red

  • The 1985 team was minus about 20 players that were scheduled to return from the 1984 team, including Gerald Perry, Roy Hart, Joe Brooks, Lenny Rivera and many others that would have made a huge difference in the team and the record.

    Art Smith changed the criteria for regaining eligibility in summer school that year and we lost a ton of very good football players. Hart returned in 1986, but most of those guys never played for us again. Perry went on to a stellar NFL career.

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    Cockfather

  • Yea he was the starter and played the whole season, just not too well. He did have one of the highlite plays of all time against Pitt where he shook off about 5 sack attempts and heaves the ball down for a TD (to I believe Raynard Brown).
    WE didn't return a good OL or DL and were whipped on both lines.
    We should have ran more Veer with Allen Mitchell, who was not the same athlete as Hold but much better on the option.

    1Gamecock4572

  • Why'd somebody have to bring up that Michigan game? I was at that game. It was there that I realized size does matter.

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    LedCock

  • No kidding. I remember watching Michigan warm up before that game and thought they're not that much bigger than us ............then they went in the locker room and put their shoulder pads on!

    stewul8er

  • Cockfather said...

    The 1985 team was minus about 20 players that were scheduled to return from the 1984 team, including Gerald Perry, Roy Hart, Joe Brooks, Lenny Rivera and many others that would have made a huge difference in the team and the record.

    Art Smith changed the criteria for regaining eligibility in summer school that year and we lost a ton of very good football players. Hart returned in 1986, but most of those guys never played for us again. Perry went on to a stellar NFL career.

    The first I've heard of this. Who is Art Smith? I thought Roy got hurt.

    garnetblood

  • #1Gamecock said...

    Yea he was the starter and played the whole season, just not too well. He did have one of the highlite plays of all time against Pitt where he shook off about 5 sack attempts and heaves the ball down for a TD (to I believe Raynard Brown). WE didn't return a good OL or DL and were whipped on both lines. We should have ran more Veer with Allen Mitchell, who was not the same athlete as Hold but much better on the option.

    It was Pitt. The pass was actually thrown to Anthony Smith, and it bounced off his shoulder pads and Raynard Brown caught it from about 10 yards away on the dead run.It was recorded as an approximately 80 yard TD, but was more like 105.

    If anyone is wondering how I remember this much detail, I have to credit one of my favorite books, "The Encyclopedia of Gamecock Football 1892-1994," by John Chandler Griffin. It's a great book with some great facts and pictures. I knew it was Pitt, but as I get older, some names and details escape me, so I have to refer to things like this. game-cocks

    Bunzie

  • garnetblood said...

    Who is Art Smith?

    Interim president of USC

    Kelso Red

  • Cockfather said...

    The 1985 team was minus about 20 players that were scheduled to return from the 1984 team, including Gerald Perry, Roy Hart, Joe Brooks, Lenny Rivera and many others that would have made a huge difference in the team and the record.

    Art Smith changed the criteria for regaining eligibility in summer school that year and we lost a ton of very good football players. Hart returned in 1986, but most of those guys never played for us again. Perry went on to a stellar NFL career.

    Wasn't that also about the time we lost the "General Studies" major?? (that one had been George Rogers' major as it had been for many players from that era). If y'all remember, that Michigan game was the "return" game for the one we had won up at the "Big House" in 1980!!

    "I wouldn't trade the dirt under his (Roche's) fingernails for anyone else's soul"~ Coach Frank McGuire

    cocksteady

  • my senior year was 1985 and Mike was on the team.

    JICOCK21