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Mustafa Greene in trouble

  • I know during the lattimore recruiting bunch of Carolina fans were pounding the table to recruit green as well just in case lattimore went to auburn. Looks like a good decision

    This post was edited by ChrisinStPete on 4/12/2012 at 9:22 AM

    Drug charge latest setback for NCSU’s Mustafa Greene | CollegeFootballTalk

    After leading North Carolina State in rushing as a true freshman in 2010, Mustafa Greene was viewed by many as a rising player at his position.  Unfortunately, the running back's career has been on a downhill trajectory ever since. A foot injury ultimately cost Greene the entire 2011 season.

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  • In all fairness, that's a really, really minor charge. And it's wrongly characterized as a drug charge. It's not. The traffic offenses he faces are more serious than the paraphernalia charge.

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  • ouch.....that will put a dent in his pocket...........

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  • C&L said...

    In all fairness, that's a really, really minor charge. And it's wrongly characterized as a drug charge. It's not. The traffic offenses he faces are more serious than the paraphernalia charge.

    while I understand what the intent of your post is, i do think this kind of thought is a prevailing problem in our society. we tend to judge all things on a scale from good to bad... drugs are like pregnancy... you're either pregnant or not... you're either involved in illegal drugs or not... NO association with illegal drugs can be deemed minor.

    poor decision making is endemic today and the current state of our economy is an indicator that this is fact!

    coxrox

  • coxrox said...

    while I understand what the intent of your post is, i do think this kind of thought is a prevailing problem in our society. we tend to judge all things on a scale from good to bad... drugs are like pregnancy... you're either pregnant or not... you're either involved in illegal drugs or not... NO association with illegal drugs can be deemed minor.

    poor decision making is endemic today and the current state of our economy is an indicator that this is fact!

    Would it have been better if he had an open beer in his car because that is a legal drug? Fwiw I don't think all drugs are created equal, if that were the case the college kid taking adderall without a prescription is the same as a crack bum.

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  • I really hope Mustafa can turn things around. He is a good guy but has always surrounded himself with bad people.

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  • coxrox said...

    while I understand what the intent of your post is, i do think this kind of thought is a prevailing problem in our society. we tend to judge all things on a scale from good to bad... drugs are like pregnancy... you're either pregnant or not... you're either involved in illegal drugs or not... NO association with illegal drugs can be deemed minor.

    poor decision making is endemic today and the current state of our economy is an indicator that this is fact!

    That's an opinion you're entitled to have. I happen to disagree. But I'm not going to hijack the thread with my thoughts on how stupid marijuana laws are.

    The point of my post was not to defend Mustafa anyway, just to point out this particular charge was unlikely to be one that would cause him significant legal or eligibility problems.

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  • C&L said...

    In all fairness, that's a really, really minor charge. And it's wrongly characterized as a drug charge. It's not. The traffic offenses he faces are more serious than the paraphernalia charge.

    What's the maximum penalty in North Carolina for his offense?

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  • 22Cock said...

    What's the maximum penalty in North Carolina for his offense?

    death by hanging...

    Claymation

  • 120 days.

    In SC the only time this charge gets used is in a negotiated reduction of a greater marijuana charge. It's a ticket, fine is about $150.

    It will disappear in the resolution of his traffic warrants.

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  • coxrox said...

    while I understand what the intent of your post is, i do think this kind of thought is a prevailing problem in our society. we tend to judge all things on a scale from good to bad... drugs are like pregnancy... you're either pregnant or not... you're either involved in illegal drugs or not... NO association with illegal drugs can be deemed minor.

    poor decision making is endemic today and the current state of our economy is an indicator that this is fact!

    I have to agree with this. my profession and the things I see and deal with every day backs your thinking. Not saying I expect people and kids to be perfect, and I've had my moments I'm not proud of, but I can also say my only addictions are football, soccer, and my Gamecocks, and none hurt me or anyone else. Well, the Taters may disagree, but I don't really count them as "anyone."

    I've lost players and former players to addictions, complications from dealing, etc., and it honestly takes a piece of my soul with me when it happens. With that said however, I sleep with a clear conscience because I talked to them probably as much about making good choices in life as I did/do about the sports themselves. Making excuses and rating things on a scale of bad from 1-10, and allowing the scale to be moved to allow bad to be excused because of this or that has us in the mess we're in now. Common sense isn't what it used to be. I'll say that.

    Again, JMHO, and not trying to be judge and just hear, but in my almost 41 years, I've been around enough to see the results should speak loudly for themselves. We could all use excuses to try to justify what we say and do, and sadly, many more do just that in comparison to those who do the right and moral thing. If anyone disagrees, just watch the news or scan the paper. The tragic/bad stories that sell outnumber the positive and wholesome stories by a very, very wide margin. Or I can show the funeral programs and mug shots compared to their smiling sports pictures I've accumulated over the years. That makes it more than an opinion though, I guess.

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  • coxrox said...

    while I understand what the intent of your post is, i do think this kind of thought is a prevailing problem in our society. we tend to judge all things on a scale from good to bad... drugs are like pregnancy... you're either pregnant or not... you're either involved in illegal drugs or not... NO association with illegal drugs can be deemed minor.

    poor decision making is endemic today and the current state of our economy is an indicator that this is fact!

    Legalize marijuana and 90% of off the field issues in college football go away and the game will be affected in no way at all just saying...

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  • coxrox said...

    while I understand what the intent of your post is, i do think this kind of thought is a prevailing problem in our society. we tend to judge all things on a scale from good to bad... drugs are like pregnancy... you're either pregnant or not... you're either involved in illegal drugs or not... NO association with illegal drugs can be deemed minor.

    poor decision making is endemic today and the current state of our economy is an indicator that this is fact!

    Legalize marijuana and 90% of off the field issues in college football go away and the game will be affected in no way at all just saying...

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  • kellajw said...

    Legalize marijuana and 90% of off the field issues in college football go away and the game will be affected in no way at all just saying...

    Without a doubt, the most ignorant post I've ever seen on this board.

    Walterboro Cock

  • C&L said...

    In all fairness, that's a really, really minor charge. And it's wrongly characterized as a drug charge. It's not. The traffic offenses he faces are more serious than the paraphernalia charge.

    It is a minor charge in most states. In North Carolina, it is a more serious charge than possession. Ridiculous, but true. Having papers to roll a point is a more serious crime in North Carolina than having an ounce of marijuana.

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  • Walterboro Cock said...

    Without a doubt, the most ignorant post I've ever seen on this board.

    How so?

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  • kellajw said...

    Legalize marijuana and 90% of off the field issues in college football go away and the game will be affected in no way at all just saying...

    Maybe so, but legalize beating up women, and 90% (that we know about) of off the field issues at Clemson go away as well. As I was saying, where does one draw the line on good and bad? The law and rules are what they are. You break them, you should face the music. No one ever says the McBeaters of the world should get off with no punishment when they take a foreign object to a female, so I'm of the same opinion when they had kids who came out and said "They be'd done smoked it."

    Same for me in society, same for Mustafa Green, anyone if you stop and think about it.

    Just sayin...

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  • coxrox said...

    while I understand what the intent of your post is, i do think this kind of thought is a prevailing problem in our society. we tend to judge all things on a scale from good to bad... drugs are like pregnancy... you're either pregnant or not... you're either involved in illegal drugs or not... NO association with illegal drugs can be deemed minor.

    poor decision making is endemic today and the current state of our economy is an indicator that this is fact!

    So you think I'm immoral because I have absolutely no problem with marijuana or marijuana users? U cray.

    eddy

  • Walterboro Cock said...

    Without a doubt, the most ignorant post I've ever seen on this board.

    Why? Explain yourself. College kids like to smoke it and do very little, if any, harm while on it. Maybe they should outlaw alcohol because a whole lot more damage is done by drunk kids than stoned kids.

    eddy

  • eddy said...

    Why? Explain yourself. College kids like to smoke it and do very little, if any, harm while on it. Maybe they should outlaw alcohol because a whole lot more damage is done by drunk kids than stoned kids.

    As a recovering addict, I can say that no substance is a good idea for someone like me. But, if smoking pot is the worst thing a kid does, and this is the case with many kids I go to school with, and work with, then they could be doing a lot worse.

    You never hear about a redneck tater fan smoking too much weed and beating the hell out of his wife, that's always a result of inbreeding and PBR.

    You never hear about a rugby team smoking a bunch of pot and getting in a bar fight. You never hear about someone getting stoned, and wrapping their car around a tree at 120 mph.

    I Do NOT condone weed, nor do I smoke it. I never even liked weed that much, but it is pretty harmless, unless you have a self destructive addictive streak like I do. For me, it made me think: "Hey, if weed is good, I bet pills and coke and whatever are really, really good." That is the thing that concerns me with weed.

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  • The only problem is, like it or not, agree with it or not, it's illegal and you cannot have a society that gets to choose what laws they obey and the ones they don't. But the biggest problem is nobody ever takes that first drink of alcohol and says " Man....I think I'll become an alcoholic and let this stuff ruin my life" Nobody ever smokes that first joint and says "Wow...this is great man..can't wait to this no longer gives me the "high" I want and I move on to other drugs and become so addicted I'll rob and steal for it"
    I do jail ministry and I've seen it firsthand. Great guys...almost all of the started off with "harmless" things like alcohol and weed but moved to addictions that they cry like a bady to get rid of but just can't beat that animal.
    Also seen it a way that no Father should have to... I lost my son at 26 to being addicted to that crap. Started off with that "harmless" weed his mom (my ex) gave him for his 14th birthday, then moved on to meth (her too). And that's for sure one drug that's hard to kick.
    Now I know that everyone that drinks and everyone that smokes pot doesn't move to more dangerous drugs or get addicted...but like I said...do you thinks the ones that do planned it? They've sucked the life out of many a good man & woman, boy & girl. Just my .02

    spurdog59

  • spurdog59 said...

    The only problem is, like it or not, agree with it or not, it's illegal and you cannot have a society that gets to choose what laws they obey and the ones they don't. But the biggest problem is nobody ever takes that first drink of alcohol and says " Man....I think I'll become an alcoholic and let this stuff ruin my life" Nobody ever smokes that first joint and says "Wow...this is great man..can't wait to this no longer gives me the "high" I want and I move on to other drugs and become so addicted I'll rob and steal for it" I do jail ministry and I've seen it firsthand. Great guys...almost all of the started off with "harmless" things like alcohol and weed but moved to addictions that they cry like a bady to get rid of but just can't beat that animal. Also seen it a way that no Father should have to... I lost my son at 26 to being addicted to that crap. Started off with that "harmless" weed his mom (my ex) gave him for his 14th birthday, then moved on to meth (her too). And that's for sure one drug that's hard to kick. Now I know that everyone that drinks and everyone that smokes pot doesn't move to more dangerous drugs or get addicted...but like I said...do you thinks the ones that do planned it? They've sucked the life out of many a good man & woman, boy & girl. Just my .02

    Thanks for sharing and terribly sorry for your loss. Though I don't have a personal experience with druge addiction, that's exactly where I was aiming with my post.

    Walterboro Cock

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