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NCAA exceeds organization's bounds .

  • Editorial from The Daily Gamecock .

    Lane: NCAA exceeds organization's bounds

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  • What people seem to be losing track of here is that Penn State AGREED to the penalties. They could have fought the NCAA from every different angle (including whether they had jurisdiction over the issue) but chose not to for whatever reason.

    Hazecock

  • Hazecock said...

    What people seem to be losing track of here is that Penn State AGREED to the penalties. They could have fought the NCAA from every different angle (including whether they had jurisdiction over the issue) but chose not to for whatever reason.

    You serious Clark?

    That would've been the worst PR move in the history of the universe. Penn State's only play here was to accept whatever was given to them. I'm not saying what was given to them was right or wrong, but they were in no position to fight it.

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  • Pat_Bateman said...

    You serious Clark?

    That would've been the worst PR move in the history of the universe. Penn State's only play here was to accept whatever was given to them. I'm not saying what was given to them was right or wrong, but they were in no position to fight it.

    I agree. Also believe that the NCAA basically gave them two choices and that what was behind door number too was decidedly less enticing.

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  • For what it's worth, here's my opinion.

    NOTHING is more disgusting than went on at PS for such a long period of time. Even if Sandusky was not turned in to the police back then, WHY was he not fired and/or why was he allowed on campus? If the people involved thought it would become a negative to the university then, they obviously were short-sighted given what the NCAA has imposed.

    As foir those sanctions, I believe the NCAA has gone way overboard. I can understand the fines. In fact, $60 million may be too little. I can understand the forfeiting of games, although I probably would have reduced the number to just below Bowden. It would have the same effect. I can agree that scholarship reductions were warranted, although I think the number is way too punitive. What I do not agree with is allowing any player to transfer to another school with out losing eligibility (with the exception of incoming freshmen). And I also disagree with allowing schools to accept those transfers without affecting their scholarship levels. One compromise might be to allow schools to accept those transfers as long as the schools themselves are not currently receiving NCAA sanctions. And I would limit the number of transfers schools could accept to two.

    I agree that not accepting the sanctions would be an absolute devasting PR move by Penn State, but I also believe the NCAA went way beyond their authority and effectively destroying any competiveness from PS for the next 8-10 years. And regardless of what people think about what occurred in the past, THAT is no fair to the players or current coaches.

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  • No doubt it would have been the worst PR move in the history of mankind. My point was that the argument was PSU's to make or waive. This nashing of teeth over whether the NCAA should have done something, had the power to do something, etc., is completely irelevant.

    I agree that the NCAA is a POS organization that ignores precedent when convenient and ABSOLUTELY plays favorites in doling out punishment. But to keep going over again and again whether the NCAA should have done anything to PSU is a massive waste of time.

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  • If not the NCAA, then who ?

    FBI/legal enforcement doesn't have the ability to go after an institution, only the individuals.

    The FBI can't put Penn State in prison.

    Without the NCAA, PSU escapes without penalty, and the institution has to pay a price along with the individuals.
    Any time the NCAA acts, people are punished that had nothing to do with the transgressions because the NCAA is always operating on past actions and is usually at least 2-3 years after the fact. That argument is silly and vacuous.

    I don't think the NCAA had the forethought to specify a rule against serial pedophilia cover up.
    PSU's attorneys obviously concluded that the NCAA was within their jurisdiction since they accepted the
    penalties and accepted them quickly. Obviously, they thought it best not to fight the technicality of rule specificity
    and accept the fact that the institution should and needed to be punished. Others need to accept it too.

    Article completely misses the point, as have others that have made this argument.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by 77 Gamecock on 7/26/2012 at 1:17 PM

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  • 77 Gamecock said...

    If not the NCAA, then who ?

    FBI/legal enforcement doesn't have the ability to go after an institution, only the individuals.

    The FBI can't put Penn State in prison.

    Without the NCAA, PSU escapes without penalty, and the institution has to pay a price along with the individuals. Any time the NCAA acts, people are punished that had nothing to do with the transgressions because the NCAA is always operating on past actions and is usually at least 2-3 years after the fact. That argument is silly and vacuous.

    I don't think the NCAA had the forethought to specify a rule against serial pedophilia cover up. PSU's attorneys obviously concluded that the NCAA was within their jurisdiction since they accepted the penalties and accepted them quickly. Obviously, they thought it best not to fight the technicality of rule specificity and accept the fact that the institution should and needed to be punished. Others need to accept it too.

    Article completely misses the point, as have others that have made this argument.

    Why should PSU suffer if it didn't violate any NCAA rules?

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