Palmetto Proving Grounds

Say it ain't so, mp.

I have a family member (by marriage) who doesn't believe in disciplining her children. She thinks you are supposed to just let them be kids, they will grow out of it. She doesn't have a clue and you can't reason with her. She is one who drives in the left lane slowly on purpose. When you pass her, then she will get over, but you will pass her in the right lane first.

Her daughter is 9 months older than ours. When they were babies (less than 1 yr) they came to visit and her child started to hit our child. When I said something she just said "oh, she is only a baby, she doesn't know better." I replied, "I don't care, she isn't going to hit my child simply because she doesn't know better, so stop her or I will."

She now has a 2 yr. old terror (boy). They came for a visit recently. He threw one of his temper tantrums in my house. Any kid that throws a temper tantrum in my house answers to me....it's my castle and I'm King, and if you can't discipline your child, I'm happy to do it for you in my house. Yeah, that temper tantrum stopped real quick. She thought I was being cruel. I think she should discipline her child.

Her 9 year old no longer throws temper tantrums (used up her allotment I guess), but she did figure out that if she whines long or hard enough, she gets her way. She learned this past summer that doesn't work on me either.

I firmly believe that taking discipline out of the schools was a huge mistake. It happened before I graduated. I saw what happened to my younger brother (9 yrs. younger) when he realized he couldn't be disciplined any longer...so I had to threaten him with a little home grown discipline to straighten his butt out. That worked. (yeah, I know, some school authorities crossed the line over into abuse...no lectures please, I saw some of it with my own eyes.) Without some form of discipline, kids become a mess. Now as adults, their kids are worse.

Calgon....take me away (anyone old enough to remember that old commercial?)

Wow, have you BEEN to Mauldin?

If I could UV this post with all 25 I would! Your house your RULES I concur. Let the schools have some power back and a lot of this BS in schools would stop too. Give the teachers some authority too, and make the admin STAND BEHIND THE TEACHER instead of throwing them under the bus. My wife and S-I-L both work in the school system (wife is a SLP, and S-I-L 3rd grade teacher), and some of the crap kids get away with OMG.

Funny related story. We had a guy at Swansea who was a first round draft pick from Allbarn by the Chiefs as a G. He got booted off our state championship team in '92 as a SR because of behavior, dude got pissed at librarian and shattered a wooden chair and maybe table (I was in 8th grade at the time and don't know that100% of the details I have are 100% accurate but my info is according to his step brother). He was sent to the principle's office and mouthed off. The principle called home to see if he could paddle him. The guy was 6'4" 330 and ran a 4.8 or so. Remember he went on to play in the league as a G. BIG BOY. Anyway principle calls home and mom says NO, but tell him I'll be there in a minute. They said this massive guy broke down in tears cause he knew his momma was gonna WEAR HIS OUT! The story goes she broke the paddle over him and asked the principle for another.

Parent's need to quit expecting schools to parent for them, and let the schools TEACH them what schools are supposed to be teaching. Not spend all day talking about discipline and not having the teeth to do anything about it. I'm glad my wife only works with 3,4,5 year olds other wise I'd be in trouble with some of the crap that happens to teachers. Last year one of my S-I-L's co-workers got her head slammed in one of the class room doors (large heavy wooden door) by a 5th grade student (teacher was outside looking in on class and kid intentionally did this), and had to go to the hospital but fortunately wasn't seriously hurt. The same kid a week earlier had beaten a fellow student so badly the other kid lost teeth, had to have some dental repair, and a little bit of plastic surgery where teeth came through cheek and lip. What did the aggressor get as punishment? Nothing for first incident and 1 day of in school suspension for the other. Why? Because the district wants kids to move up in a grades and get out of their schools. To hell with what needs to really go on (kicked of out school) because that would look bad and embarrass the kid. If that had been my wife someone would've have caught serious hell+ over that crap.

To follow up my previous comment here on this thread... one of my biggest pet peeves on this board is all the 12 year adults we have here. Some of our posters here probably were some of those kids we have been reading about in this thread.

RoosterCrows, I'm curious to know the answer: have you ever asked this woman exactly why she stubbornly drives slow in the passing lane and forces people to pass on the right side? Also, since you are directly related to her husband what does he say about the lack of discipline? I'm always curious about what makes insane and/or entitled people tick.

Would like to know this as well.

Pay your bill and leave, they have the right to go to dinner when and where they want to.

For starters, she is my wife's sister. And yes, I have had long laborious talks with this ummmm, ummm....I best not use the word/s I would like to use to describe her.

Her excuse...she says she WILL NOT be intimidated into getting over by other drivers. Yet she is the one who PURPOSELY drives slow in the fast lane. I have tried reasoning with her...it CANNOT be done.

The whole family is extremely dysfunctional and they all live to aggravate others. Her hubby comes from a very dysfunctional family as well. Neither one disciplines those kids...and they don't deserve to have kids the way they treat them.

I rarely ever make the 2 hour drive to Charleston with my wife to visit her family...I can't take it more than once a year and when I go, we come back the same day.

What makes them tick? The same thing that makes our 12 yr. old adults here tick....they live for the drama.

Roger. So she has been told her purposefully slow in the passing lane is against the law yet she continues to do so? Does she pull over when a police officer blue lights her? Hate to hear you must be associated with people like that.

I assume she pulls over for the police, she hasn't gone to jail yet, at least not that I know of. I've never met anyone quite like her. She is one of the most selfish and greediest individuals I have ever met.

I'm one of the nicest people you'll ever meet...until I'm given a reason not to be nice anymore. She and her dad have pushed me there several times. They avoid me for the most part because I don't tolerate people who are always purposely crossing lines they shouldn't. I'm nice about it, but very firm, and they can't stand being called on their bad behavior. I think they would like it better if I would stoop to their level and start screaming, but I won't give them such pleasure.

And I do my best not to associate with them. When they come to visit, I time my weekend work so that I'm gone while they are here for half a day...but when they give me cause, I hang around long enough to say what needs to be said, then I leave. They hate that, so they rarely visit anymore.

Before marriage, they didn't show their true colors, but after those vows were said and we had our first disagreement then their true colors shown forth big time. I don't tolerate brats and childish behavior that is purposely annoying...which is why I've started speaking out here on TBS. It's really sad to see the 12 year old adults we have around here. They belong on upstate boards.