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gamecocks28 said...
Hinton -
This is so dead on point. Garcia is good not great and will not lead us to a BCS bowl or SEC championship. He will win us a couple but he will lose us a few every year. He is just not consistent other than what you stated about not going through reads. He is very inconsistent from an accuracy standpoint which is what happened in scenarios a, d, and e above. Even though it may or may not have been the best read the ball was not thrown on point. Behind Moore, and long on Alshon and Maddox.
Yesterday after returning from ATL for the 2nd time after a loss we watched other games and then went through 1st half of tape with my son. I was trying to tell him Garcia was good not great and that we could not win the big prizes with him due to his inconsistency. I told him Marcus and Alshon were the best at their positions and know the plays and reads better than he does. I told him that if Garcia was as good at his positions as Marcus and Alshon were at theirs we would be playing Monday the 10th in place of Auburn. Alshon is starting to show his frustration in games and others will begin following suit which means Garcia will not be the leader required at qb position to win the big prizes.
Finally, I kept telling my son its a game of inches and you must be on point. He ran the hallway and I threw him the ball behind him a step, in front of him a step, and in stride so he could see the inches point. When it was in front or in stride he either caught it or it went to the ground and on the behind him throws must were tipped up in air off his arm up for grabs just like what happened to Moore in the game.
My son is only 7 and this was his 1st year of getting into football for real and we went to every game home and away except KY so he loves the team and does not like to see players get called out. That's why I told him Garcia is good just not great. It was really neat to see this post today after we did all this last night. We have not looked at 2nd half tape yesterday but when you rewind and look and then re watch its amazing how much is missed by Garcia. I like the way you posted on Garcia's weakness with class versus derailing the kid like some post do.
Thanks for the info on special teams....I just hold my breath until we make the tackle when kicking and hold my breath until we get tackled hoping we don’t fumble when we are receiving. It's a mess.
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hinton16 said...
I rarely post. I am going to offer some insight as well as some questions to others. I am very well connected to professional sports, and I have a pretty strong connection at USC. As a little background, I was a Division 1 4-year letterman including a conference player of the year in the late 90’s in baseball. I only say that so anyone who bothers to read the below has a little bit of context
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gamecocks28 said...
Hinton -
This is so dead on point. Garcia is good not great and will not lead us to a BCS bowl or SEC championship. He will win us a couple but he will lose us a few every year. He is just not consistent other than what you stated about not going through reads. He is very inconsistent from an accuracy standpoint which is what happened in scenarios a, d, and e above. Even though it may or may not have been the best read the ball was not thrown on point. Behind Moore, and long on Alshon and Maddox.
Yesterday after returning from ATL for the 2nd time after a loss we watched other games and then went through 1st half of tape with my son. I was trying to tell him Garcia was good not great and that we could not win the big prizes with him due to his inconsistency. I told him Marcus and Alshon were the best at their positions and know the plays and reads better than he does. I told him that if Garcia was as good at his positions as Marcus and Alshon were at theirs we would be playing Monday the 10th in place of Auburn. Alshon is starting to show his frustration in games and others will begin following suit which means Garcia will not be the leader required at qb position to win the big prizes.
Finally, I kept telling my son its a game of inches and you must be on point. He ran the hallway and I threw him the ball behind him a step, in front of him a step, and in stride so he could see the inches point. When it was in front or in stride he either caught it or it went to the ground and on the behind him throws must were tipped up in air off his arm up for grabs just like what happened to Moore in the game.
My son is only 7 and this was his 1st year of getting into football for real and we went to every game home and away except KY so he loves the team and does not like to see players get called out. That's why I told him Garcia is good just not great. It was really neat to see this post today after we did all this last night. We have not looked at 2nd half tape yesterday but when you rewind and look and then re watch its amazing how much is missed by Garcia. I like the way you posted on Garcia's weakness with class versus derailing the kid like some post do.
Thanks for the info on special teams....I just hold my breath until we make the tackle when kicking and hold my breath until we get tackled hoping we don’t fumble when we are receiving. It's a mess.
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BlackstockCock said...
geez.........this is true for every QB in the NCAA regarding missing open receivers, etc. How in the heck can you blast a player of our football team who has led us to a 9-5 season, win the East, etc. Kid is giving his all and trying and is pretty damn good in my opinion. You want to gripe, then start with coaches who go for a fourth down with a minute plus left down 6-0 after stepping on our pecker for an entire half. Biggest mistake of the game.
Special teams.....................frigin couldn't agree more. What happened to having a true special teams coach. Not a recruiting coordinator who does one hell of a job at one thing.........recruiting.
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jimcock said...
I thoroughly enjoyed the original post and agree with it. I would point out that almost all college quarterbacks, except maybe the elite of the elite, would grade out similar to Garcia in the bowl game under the same scrutiny and pressure from the opponent's pass rush.
I also think the world of Connor Shaw and think he is advanced for a true freshman and believe he has the tools to do well. At this point, judging from prior game performance, I doubt he even gets many balls out against the Florida State rush. He would have pulled the ball down and taken off most of the time.
My main concern about Garcia is his inconsistent accuracy, which does cost the team many missed opportunities for big pays. If he throws the ball long and to the outside to Ace Sanders, we had a chance for a touchdown instead of a pick. If he throws high and outside to Alshon we have a chance for a big first down or an incompletion -- not a pick. If he throws slightly in in front of Moore instead of behind, we pick up the first down instead of turning the ball over. He overthrew two other potential big plays, I guess overcompensating for the short ball that were picked.
Garcia obviously needs to spend the offseason working on those mechanics and throwing uncounted fade patterns because Connor Shaw will be coming fast. He won't be a true freshman next year.
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jimcock said...
I thoroughly enjoyed the original post and agree with it. I would point out that almost all college quarterbacks, except maybe the elite of the elite, would grade out similar to Garcia in the bowl game under the same scrutiny and pressure from the opponent's pass rush.
I also think the world of Connor Shaw and think he is advanced for a true freshman and believe he has the tools to do well. At this point, judging from prior game performance, I doubt he even gets many balls out against the Florida State rush. He would have pulled the ball down and taken off most of the time.
My main concern about Garcia is his inconsistent accuracy, which does cost the team many missed opportunities for big pays. If he throws the ball long and to the outside to Ace Sanders, we had a chance for a touchdown instead of a pick. If he throws high and outside to Alshon we have a chance for a big first down or an incompletion -- not a pick. If he throws slightly in in front of Moore instead of behind, we pick up the first down instead of turning the ball over. He overthrew two other potential big plays, I guess overcompensating for the short ball that were picked.
Garcia obviously needs to spend the offseason working on those mechanics and throwing uncounted fade patterns because Connor Shaw will be coming fast. He won't be a true freshman next year.
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hinton16 said...
1) Stephen Garcia – Should he start in 2011? Awareness? Mental Acuity?
In my opinion, Garcia simply does not have the AWARENESS or the IN-GAME INTELLIGENCE AND DECISION-MAKING SKILLS to lead this team to the next level. I believe we have to really consider moving in a different direction if we want to change this program for USC football going forward.
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