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CockyMike1 said...
I'm gonna rant for a minute..... For those that don't know, I'm a remodeling contractor. This week, I did a kitchen estimate for someone I've known for probably 20 years or more. I live 4 miles from them. I eat breakfast with him every now and then at the local restaurant. I've played golf with him at least 30 times over the years. Money is not an issue with this guy, he's retired from an extremely good job. . I had about 8 hours in this estimate including the initial consultation, drawings, material bids from my vendors, granite, tile, cabinets... etc. They went to my folder on PhotoBucket and looked at about 100 pictures of my work. I offered to give them a dozen or more referrals. I presented with CAD renditions, and a detailed quote, and sat in their kitchen for well over an hour answering questions. I could tell when I gave them the quote, that it was LESS than they had thought it was going to be. I've been self employed for 28 years, and I've learned how to read this. I left feeling good. . I ran into him this morning at the and he thanked me but said they were going with another guy. A guy that lives 30 miles away, A guy who neither one of them had ever met until he came and looked at the kitchen. A guy that had no pictures of his work. A guy that had no renditions of the job. A guy that had priced higher than me.. I never ask why. If he has a reason I won't ever talk him out of it. That's the way it works. . People... please support your local businesses. Buy from the local bait store, not Wal-Mart Buy gas from the privately owned store, not the monster chain. That .03 a gallon equates to less than .65 on a tank full. Hire your neighborhood kid to cut your grass. ...and if you know someone that's owns a business you need, by all means, hire him over a stranger. . Ok, I'm done.
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DT USC said...
Yep. Sounds like someone low balled the job. when he calls to either ask you to complete the job or fix the other guy's work, respectively decline. He will probably beat himself up over it more than you over the years.
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Cockscrow said...
I agree with you totally on patronizing all local businesses.
Not everyone will agree with the effort and time it takes to grow a business.
"You got a business, you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen,"
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CockyMike1 said...
I'm gonna rant for a minute..... For those that don't know, I'm a remodeling contractor. This week, I did a kitchen estimate for someone I've known for probably 20 years or more. I live 4 miles from them. I eat breakfast with him every now and then at the local restaurant. I've played golf with him at least 30 times over the years. Money is not an issue with this guy, he's retired from an extremely good job.
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I had about 8 hours in this estimate including the initial consultation, drawings, material bids from my vendors, granite, tile, cabinets... etc. They went to my folder on PhotoBucket and looked at about 100 pictures of my work. I offered to give them a dozen or more referrals. I presented with CAD renditions, and a detailed quote, and sat in their kitchen for well over an hour answering questions. I could tell when I gave them the quote, that it was LESS than they had thought it was going to be. I've been self employed for 28 years, and I've learned how to read this. I left feeling good.
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I ran into him this morning at the and he thanked me but said they were going with another guy.
A guy that lives 30 miles away,
A guy who neither one of them had ever met until he came and looked at the kitchen.
A guy that had no pictures of his work.
A guy that had no renditions of the job.
A guy that had priced higher than me..
I never ask why. If he has a reason I won't ever talk him out of it. That's the way it works.
.
People... please support your local businesses.
Buy from the local bait store, not Wal-Mart
Buy gas from the privately owned store, not the monster chain. That .03 a gallon equates to less than .65 on a tank full.
Hire your neighborhood kid to cut your grass.
...and if you know someone that's owns a business you need, by all means, hire him over a stranger.
.
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jetusc said...
Not trying to be anything but helpful, but you may need to get a little sales training. The problem was that you gave him all your ammo to shop with and he probably got a much cheaper price using your info. It sounds like you are a wonderful contractor and provide a great service, but you are selling yourself short by not understanding that you need to be on top of the sales aspect of your business.
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BritBrant said...
being similarly situated, i can relate to mike's story. i lay it out and if people dont bite....so be it, but it can be aggravating sometimes. i hate a high-pressure salesman--i had to literally put a hand on a guy's back and help him out then slammed the door a few years ago. he was determined to sell me windows and i was not about to buy from some dbag salesman/traveling road show crew when i know craftsmen in that line of work. i had already barked at him for jumping on a window (could scratch floor) and being a tool, but he wouldn't quit. he even tried the affirmation trick on me (if i can do x y and z, will you commit) i laffed at him on that. mike will stay busy elsewhere and the friend can GTFO as he will prolly regret his decision. in the future, i'm sure mike will try to wear tight brief undies and loose fitting pants if there is a woman in the equation
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jetusc said...
Not sure what your point was, but okay. If you lay it out there like Mike did, it's no wonder you were in "simuliar" situations. I don't think I recommended that he become a high pressure salesman. The fact is pretty plain and simple, he gave the guy all he needed to shop the price and then got mad because the guy did it. But of course he may love being someone's unpaid consultant.
This post was edited by BritBrant on 7/22/2012 at 10:44 PM
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